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SuperDave · 02-20-2016, 08:01 AM

I really need some under hood pictures of a reasonably correct set up. Firewall, radiator/hoses, carb linkage etc. this car has none of these things and I am finding out that starting at the firewall..there is a dramatic difference from a 39 Ford.

email me if you like..dwad(the four numbers nineteen thirty nine)@att.net
Thanks in advance..

TomO · 02-20-2016, 01:42 PM

Try posting this request in the Mercury section of the Early Ford V-8 Club site. There are a couple of guys that have restored 39 Mercurys that post there. Here is a link to the Forum

https://www.earlyfordv8.org/forum/index.cfm

mercman from oz · 02-20-2016, 04:54 PM

Here is a picture of the Engine Compartment of a 1939 Mercury from my Files. I hope that this helps.

SuperDave · 02-20-2016, 06:20 PM

Wonderful!! thank you very much....
Any idea what that is in front of the oil filter?

trainguy · 02-20-2016, 06:47 PM

Looks to be a ignition coil for a 46-48 Ford-Merc.

JSeery · 02-20-2016, 07:03 PM

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Yep, it's a coil.

Brian · 02-21-2016, 12:39 AM

Yep, it's a coil

And...incorrect for a 39 Merc so disregard.

SuperDave · 02-26-2016, 07:54 AM

What fan belt do you I use and does anyone have that sheet metal cover over the wire loom on the firewall?

SuperDave · 02-26-2016, 09:51 AM

Also.. I have the choke and throttle rod set from Mac's. The choke rod fits fine (but the rubber link is under the dash not in the engine compartment like the picture.) The throttle rod I got is identical to the choke rod and is not long enough to reach the carb. ?

SuperDave · 02-26-2016, 11:33 AM

Thanks, I snagged one.

SuperDave · 02-26-2016, 05:00 PM

What is the deal with the choke and throttle rods? It appears to me that whether Ford or Mercury, they should be different lengths. ?

rockfla · 02-27-2016, 03:05 PM

Here is our all original "early" 39 Merc

rockfla · 02-27-2016, 03:07 PM

#2 picture

alt63bird · 02-27-2016, 03:15 PM

Radiator from '41 with center fill vs side fill '39-40?

4dFord/SC · 02-27-2016, 04:01 PM

The wiring cover looks identical to those used in contemporary Fords.

rockfla · 02-27-2016, 04:05 PM

Sorry meant to post this one second

SuperDave · 02-27-2016, 05:30 PM

HMMM. My oil filter is mounted on the front of the left Cylinder head. How do I tell if the engine is appropriate for a 39 Merc?
These pictures really help a lot.. thanks fellas.

johnny · 02-28-2016, 10:43 AM

Re the engine should be able to do the pencil test should have frost plug bumps along the block at the pan rail { three I think }.The only way to tell if it is the Merc. engine is to remove a cylinder head and measure the bore ,3 3/16 I had to lengthen my choke ,throttle rods if the rubber inserts that the two rods fit through in the dash are bad no one makes them I had to make mine using a two part liquid rubber. I can likely help you should you have other concerns There are a great car, you will like it when finished .Mine was on the front cover of the V8 times ,jan-feb 2015 .John---- [email protected]

Graeme / New Zealand · 02-28-2016, 01:28 PM

The wiring loom cover is interesting. The black one is more bulbous while the one on Rockflas post appears to me more flat. I pulled a flat one off a 39 Merc wreck at Horopito Wreckers about 25 years back. I've seen the other type on various Fords.

GB

swoopNZ · 02-28-2016, 04:23 PM

Flat was the early type.
Became rounder after complaints about wires squashed and shorting out.
39 Ford's have an outlet at the top, Mercury does not.

02-20-2016, 08:01 AM	#1
SuperDave Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Melbourne Fl Posts: 166	39 Mercury help I really need some under hood pictures of a reasonably correct set up. Firewall, radiator/hoses, carb linkage etc. this car has none of these things and I am finding out that starting at the firewall..there is a dramatic difference from a 39 Ford. email me if you like..dwad(the four numbers nineteen thirty nine)@att.net Thanks in advance..

02-20-2016, 04:54 PM	#3
mercman from oz Senior Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: Queensland, Australia Posts: 10,361	Re: 39 Mercury help Here is a picture of the Engine Compartment of a 1939 Mercury from my Files. I hope that this helps.

02-20-2016, 06:20 PM	#4
SuperDave Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Melbourne Fl Posts: 166	Re: 39 Mercury help Wonderful!! thank you very much.... Any idea what that is in front of the oil filter? Last edited by SuperDave; 02-20-2016 at 06:35 PM.

02-20-2016, 06:47 PM	#5
trainguy Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Lehighton Pa Posts: 1,085	Re: 39 Mercury help Looks to be a ignition coil for a 46-48 Ford-Merc.

02-20-2016, 07:03 PM	#6
JSeery Member Emeritus Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Wichita KS Posts: 16,132	Re: 39 Mercury help Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) Yep, it's a coil.

02-20-2016, 01:42 PM	#2
TomO Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 362	Re: 39 Mercury help Try posting this request in the Mercury section of the Early Ford V-8 Club site. There are a couple of guys that have restored 39 Mercurys that post there. Here is a link to the Forum https://www.earlyfordv8.org/forum/index.cfm __________________ TomO

02-21-2016, 12:39 AM	#7
Brian Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Masterton, New Zealand Posts: 3,832	Re: 39 Mercury help Yep, it's a coil And...incorrect for a 39 Merc so disregard. __________________ Unfortunately, two half wits don't make a whole wit!

02-26-2016, 07:54 AM	#8
SuperDave Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Melbourne Fl Posts: 166	Re: 39 Mercury help What fan belt do you I use and does anyone have that sheet metal cover over the wire loom on the firewall?

02-26-2016, 09:51 AM	#9
SuperDave Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Melbourne Fl Posts: 166	Re: 39 Mercury help Also.. I have the choke and throttle rod set from Mac's. The choke rod fits fine (but the rubber link is under the dash not in the engine compartment like the picture.) The throttle rod I got is identical to the choke rod and is not long enough to reach the carb. ?

02-26-2016, 11:33 AM	#10
SuperDave Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Melbourne Fl Posts: 166	Re: 39 Mercury help Thanks, I snagged one.

02-26-2016, 05:00 PM	#11
SuperDave Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Melbourne Fl Posts: 166	Re: 39 Mercury help What is the deal with the choke and throttle rods? It appears to me that whether Ford or Mercury, they should be different lengths. ?

02-27-2016, 03:15 PM	#14
alt63bird Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: outside Omaha, NE Posts: 276	Re: 39 Mercury help Radiator from '41 with center fill vs side fill '39-40? __________________ Alan H. Tast AIA, LEED AP BD+C Technical Director/Past President-Editor-Publications Director, Vintage Thunderbird Club Int'l. (VTCI) http://www.vintagethunderbirdclub.net Author, "Thunderbird 1955-1966" & "Thunderbird 50 Years" 35+ year member, Crown Victoria Ass'n.

02-27-2016, 04:01 PM	#15
4dFord/SC Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Columbia, SC Posts: 1,579	Re: 39 Mercury help The wiring cover looks identical to those used in contemporary Fords.

02-27-2016, 05:30 PM	#17
SuperDave Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Melbourne Fl Posts: 166	Re: 39 Mercury help HMMM. My oil filter is mounted on the front of the left Cylinder head. How do I tell if the engine is appropriate for a 39 Merc? These pictures really help a lot.. thanks fellas.

02-28-2016, 10:43 AM	#18
johnny Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: London On, Can. Posts: 377	Re: 39 Mercury help Re the engine should be able to do the pencil test should have frost plug bumps along the block at the pan rail { three I think }.The only way to tell if it is the Merc. engine is to remove a cylinder head and measure the bore ,3 3/16 I had to lengthen my choke ,throttle rods if the rubber inserts that the two rods fit through in the dash are bad no one makes them I had to make mine using a two part liquid rubber. I can likely help you should you have other concerns There are a great car, you will like it when finished .Mine was on the front cover of the V8 times ,jan-feb 2015 .John---- [email protected]

02-28-2016, 01:28 PM	#19
Graeme / New Zealand Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Lower Hutt , New Zealand Posts: 2,126	Re: 39 Mercury help The wiring loom cover is interesting. The black one is more bulbous while the one on Rockflas post appears to me more flat. I pulled a flat one off a 39 Merc wreck at Horopito Wreckers about 25 years back. I've seen the other type on various Fords. GB __________________ "you can't make honey out of dog sh*t" "You're a long time looking at the lid"

02-28-2016, 04:23 PM	#20
swoopNZ MEMBER EMERITUS Join Date: May 2010 Location: New Zealand Posts: 1,380	Re: 39 Mercury help Flat was the early type. Became rounder after complaints about wires squashed and shorting out. 39 Ford's have an outlet at the top, Mercury does not.