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Old 09-16-2015, 11:55 AM   #61
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Also....getting ready to pull the moter, we've taken off moter mounts and such, and took nuts off this. From here how do u detach the shaft from the tranny? (My ford service manuals haven't arrived yet. . Thanks Bret
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Old 09-16-2015, 12:12 PM   #62
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You probably have lots of old grease and dirt that's "hiding" the two piece coupling at the end of the tranny. This holds the end of the torque tube in place on the tranny. Clean up this area and you will be able to see the four bolts that "clamp" the coupling together. Remove those and the two pieces should come out. Be prepared for a tough time with these bolts. They are a bugger. You won't be able to remove the torque tube until you pull the tranny forward.
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Old 09-16-2015, 05:30 PM   #63
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You probably have lots of old grease and dirt that's "hiding" the two piece coupling at the end of the tranny. This holds the end of the torque tube in place on the tranny. Clean up this area and you will be able to see the four bolts that "clamp" the coupling together. Remove those and the two pieces should come out. Be prepared for a tough time with these bolts. They are a bugger. You won't be able to remove the torque tube until you pull the tranny forward.
You talking bout these?
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Old 09-16-2015, 06:26 PM   #64
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You talking bout these?
Don't recognize that.
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Old 09-16-2015, 07:34 PM   #65
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Farmboy. I (for some reason) can't enlarge pictures posted here. A lot of automotive glass is two layers of glass with a thin film of some sort of clear plastic between them. Safety glass. My glass was pretty good but I've heard (in a very recent post) that the glass and plastic can become delaminated and then fogged. I didn't replace any glass when I got the 35 but I'm certain it has been replaced prior to me getting the car. At this point, don't sweat the details. Get the thing up and running and then you can pick away at the details.
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Old 09-16-2015, 08:45 PM   #66
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Farmboy. I (for some reason) can't enlarge pictures posted here. A lot of automotive glass is two layers of glass with a thin film of some sort of clear plastic between them. Safety glass. My glass was pretty good but I've heard (in a very recent post) that the glass and plastic can become delaminated and then fogged. I didn't replace any glass when I got the 35 but I'm certain it has been replaced prior to me getting the car. At this point, don't sweat the details. Get the thing up and running and then you can pick away at the details.
Agreed, I could start chasing rabbits in a hurry with this, I get something on my mind and I wonder....ha. I believe that's what has happened here, the glass is all cloudy.

Took some more stuff off today, if I can the stubborn pin that holds the parking break free, and the clutch linkage, I think we are about ready to try to pull the moter. Got a local guy that rebuild starters and generators, he said would be no problem to fix these which is cool, if not I've found plenty online to choose from. There also a local machine shop that has a longstanding good reputation, and he is familiar with these engines, so we are going to mic everything and see where we are at on wear and such. getting a little work in now, then I will be to busy to work on it much till late fall and winter. Thanks for all the help!!
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Old 09-16-2015, 10:05 PM   #67
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You talking bout these?
Could not find a decent photo or engineering drawing of this so just free handed one myself. This is the coupling that will hold the torque tube (actually just keeps it from banging around) to the tranny. Once this is removed, you can move the trans forward (or the rear end backwards) and free the torque tube spline from the u-joint of the trans.

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Old 09-16-2015, 10:31 PM   #68
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Wow, thanks for the picture, that's awesome you did that. Here's what I detached today from the back of trans. Looks different from your pic. I'll look again tommorow. What does this pic look like to you ? This what your calling the torque tube?
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Old 09-16-2015, 10:38 PM   #69
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Also...lol..I am getting my stuff already to get it running as that is my first goal. I am confused about the coil, I cannot find one anywhere on this engine? I have looked online at where i'm getting some of my parts so far, and run onto this? I read where it sounds like the coil if mounted near the distributor in front of the radiator, this one must of fell off over the years or something? What about this kit where it can be relocated? What are the opinions on where I should go with this? thanks.
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Old 09-16-2015, 10:47 PM   #70
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Also...lol..I am getting my stuff already to get it running as that is my first goal. I am confused about the coil, I cannot find one anywhere on this engine? I have looked online at where i'm getting some of my parts so far, and run onto this? I read where it sounds like the coil if mounted near the distributor in front of the radiator, this one must of fell off over the years or something? What about this kit where it can be relocated? What are the opinions on where I should go with this? thanks.
Your photo is of what some folks refer to as a Joe Smith coil conversion kit. (Although Joe didn't come up with it on his own, he copied an old one he found on some old engine I believe.)

It works pretty well. It is mounted on top of the distributor, which If the engine is anywhere close to a 36 engine is on the lower part of the very front of the engine, between the engine and the radiator. If any part of the old distributor is there, you can't miss it.

The flat plate in the kit mounts on top of the distributor body, the flat plate mounting where the old coil would have been. The coil itself can be pretty much fitted anywhere you would like to put it
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Old 09-16-2015, 11:04 PM   #71
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The stock coil does't look like that, it is that black bump on top of the distributor unless the kit you show was added. The first picture would be on top of the distributor instead.

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Old 09-16-2015, 11:42 PM   #72
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Ok thanks. I see now this is the coil. Guess that condenser right behind it. The particular online store I'm looking at does not appear to,have this coil but sells the adapter I posted above to use a normal style coil. I tried to take this off the distrutor this morning with no luck.
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Old 09-17-2015, 07:00 AM   #73
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Be careful, they do crack easily. If you want a new one just send it to Skip Haney and he will rebuild it better than new. You can send the whole distributor and he will set it up too.
http://www.fordcollector.com/coils.htm

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Old 09-17-2015, 10:58 AM   #74
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Late '36 Fords used a unique 2 screw flat top coil. There is currently a thread right here on the Barn about different helmet distributors. You should probably review it, because the distributor/coil on your engine may be quite a bit different than the picture you show above.
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Old 09-17-2015, 11:20 AM   #75
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Wow, thanks for the picture, that's awesome you did that. Here's what I detached today from the back of trans. Looks different from your pic. I'll look again tommorow. What does this pic look like to you ? This what your calling the torque tube?
That is the torque tube.
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Old 09-17-2015, 11:53 AM   #76
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Here's another picture of the univ joint housing and cap.
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Here's another picture of the univ joint housing and cap.
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You should have a coupling shaft similar to this between the transmission and
rear axle torque tube.

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Remember enthusiasm can be your worst enemy.
Take your time.
Label everything, take plenty of pictures, and don't throw anything away..
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Well got motivated this afternoon and look what I got accomplished , had some help from the guys at work! http://youtu.be/ms_fTJTwATU
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