01-04-2016, 08:12 PM | #1 |
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tirebalancing
I've powder coated my wheels and remounted the tires. I marked the tires as to where they were on the car. The car does not shake,pull or wander.Is it necessary to balance the wheels at this point? Thanks
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01-04-2016, 08:21 PM | #2 |
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Re: tirebalancing
If it is not broke don't fix it, and don't even think about crapping your fresh new rims up with external weights.. If you find a problem down the road you can always use dynabeads as a last resort...
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01-04-2016, 08:35 PM | #3 |
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I agree they did not have them originally .If you can gomtomyour local tire store they will probably give you some stick on weights many people in my car club like the difference
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01-04-2016, 08:39 PM | #4 |
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Dynabeads work well if you need them. Obviously you don't need them presently but it is a good time to read up on the pros and cons and procedure before you do need them. WayneB]
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01-04-2016, 08:46 PM | #5 |
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Not broke-don't fix. I agree. I have heard of ''mag wheel'' style stick on weights that go on the inside of the wheel. It sounds that ,if you must balance, this is the preferred way.
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01-04-2016, 08:59 PM | #6 |
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01-04-2016, 10:33 PM | #7 |
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I've never found it necessary or a problem witesh balance on Model A Wheels/tires. V8's yes.. but A's no. I would not worry it. If you feel you have a problem I would check the wheel for bent first.
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01-05-2016, 01:52 AM | #8 |
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Not so much 'tire balancing', but when you are ready to drive down the road, have someone follow you to see how your wheels are 'following'. Wobbly wheels are not uncommon. If it ain't broke, don't fix it. However, if the guy following you sees some 'irregularity', then you would do well to address the problem, which may include wheel weights.
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01-05-2016, 07:30 AM | #9 |
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Certainly not original, but I used the motorcycle stick on weights when I balanced my roadster wheels. Cleaned the paint well with alcohol and painted them wheel color when in place. Been 3 years now and they are still there. Spun balanced them at a local garage.
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01-05-2016, 07:51 AM | #10 |
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Couple of things.
First off if you do not have any problems then you do not have a problem. Keep in mind the A has a lot of unsprung weight which offsets the need for real tight balance. When I did my tires on the rims I had a spindle set up with a hub and lightly oiled bearings. I mounted my tires and moved the tire around the rim to get the best balance. I found that if you have uneven paint on the area where the hub of the rims touch the brake drum you will have the brake drums warp. Powder coating can cause some build up that causes quite measurable warpage. I used sand paper and took the edge down to metal. This probably a good thing to do anyway as it will get worn off over time any way. This will cause the lug nuts to get a bit loose. Last edited by Kevin in NJ; 01-05-2016 at 08:13 AM. |
01-05-2016, 08:56 AM | #11 |
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In my experience, Model A wheels need balancing for sustaining speeds over 50 mph.
The front wheels will tamp before the rear ones do. If you have your wheels balanced, put the weights on the inside of the rims. Model A wheels must have their hub caps removed to fit onto static balance machines.
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Minerva had NEW Firestone Deluxe 19's put on just before I bought her. She was TOTALLY smooth at ALL speeds, even 75 MPH once. I always forgot to ask Glen, (RIP) if she had DYNA-BEADS???
Vermins' NEW Coker Classic 16" Blackwalls were mounted by Cokers' Store here, & have conventional weights, just on the INSIDE. Haven't driven him yet. Bill W.
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01-05-2016, 10:53 AM | #13 |
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I am running quite a few Model A's and have NEVER had to balance a wheel. As previously mentioned the problem comes more from a bent rim than an unbalanced tire. Just not necessary. I run over 50 mph on 21" and 19" wheels and have not had a tire balancing issue. I have run 85+ with the speedster with unbalanced tires.
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01-05-2016, 11:05 AM | #14 |
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Thank you all for your comments and insights.
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01-05-2016, 11:28 AM | #15 |
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Had my coupe on my 2 post car lift, tires just off the floor. Started it, put it in gear and ran it. Thought it was going to shake it off the lift. Put in Dyna-beads, put back on the lift and it ran as smooth as silk. So the beads do work.
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Bill,
If you lift the wheel off the ground and slowly turn the wheel by hand, you can hear the Dyna beads making a swishing sound. Is the noise in my head bothering you?
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01-05-2016, 01:25 PM | #17 |
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Being a bit of an 'old timer' and a bit removed from the mainstream of modern technology, I am unfamiliar with "Dyna-Beads". Can any of you youngsters (or 'hip' oldsters) enlighten me as to what they are and how they work, and what they are supposed to achieve ?
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01-05-2016, 01:32 PM | #18 |
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They are very small bead installed in the inner tube.
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01-05-2016, 02:33 PM | #20 |
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I have tried balance beads without success. The wheels may have been too far out of balance for the beads to work, but to remove the beads so that I could get the wheels conventionally balance proved very time consuming.
My speedster which is only recently on the road and cruises effortlessly at 60mph and doing only 1760rpm (3+1 gearbox and 42% overdrive) feels like it is driving over small bumps all the time. The wheels run true and I suspect balancing will cure this problem? Keith |
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