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Old 09-24-2021, 11:14 AM   #1
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I am getting ready to do the final paint on my 1957 Thunderbird, and that would include the fender skirts.

I am unsure of the status of the fender skirt seals as far as paint. Do they get affixed to the the skirt ,before paint ,or after ?

The car is going to be white, and of course the rubber seals are black and will show up.

I bought a Body Trim and Sealant assembly manual from Faxon, and the fender skirts are not mentioned that I can see.

Any advise ?
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Old 09-24-2021, 03:12 PM   #2
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I'd lean toward installing the seals after painting. Rubber seals, being flexible, would cause paint on them to crack and flake and cause an unsightly mess IMO.
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My '55 Vic skirt seals were installed after paint.
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Old 09-24-2021, 04:39 PM   #4
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... The car is going to be white, and of course the rubber seals are black and will show up.
Any advise ?
Installed after paint.
I agree they show their black color way too much on a light colored car, that's how they are.
(and paint would flake off of them anyway)
I'm considering trimming off the large-ish rounded outer edge, so only the remaining thin edge will show.
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Old 09-24-2021, 08:53 PM   #5
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I never thought about the above issues regarding flaking and the flexibility aspect. I was just questioning the color issue.
Glad I asked.
Thanks for the heads up.
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Now I am not making any suggestions here as I am CDO (correct alphabetical order of OCD) and like to see cars like this as OEM ASSY as much as practical, but ...

When bumper covers came out, you added a paint additive, elastomizer) to the paint to make it flexible when dried. Don't know if it would work here but just something to think about.
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Nice 1957 Ford Thunderbird.
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Nice 1957 Ford Thunderbird.
Thanks. It might be again if I ever get it put back together.

Not apparent in that old photo are the: blotchy done-in-a-dusty-barn paint job, blown OD section in the transmission and the Oil pressure light on under 1000 rpm.
The engine and transmission have been rebuilt. Now it's mostly waiting for the painter to finish a couple other cars in line ahead of it so I can take it over to him.

Bought it because my wife originally wanted a yellow Bird but I couldn't find one for a good price back in '12 when I was first looking. The choices were either rusted out or highly restored & too expensive.

Decided to look for a '57 for the two years worth of factory improvements, and Sun Gold because it doesn't have the green-ish tint that Inca Gold has. Finding one with the original G color code took a while, apparently less than 1% were painted this color.

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Old 09-26-2021, 06:36 AM   #9
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Now I am not making any suggestions here as I am CDO (correct alphabetical order of OCD) and like to see cars like this as OEM ASSY as much as practical, but ...

When bumper covers came out, you added a paint additive, elastomizer) to the paint to make it flexible when dried. Don't know if it would work here but just something to think about.
I will ask at the paint store. I have never painted complete car before ,so I have asked those guys a million questions, and they they have been very helpful. Same with the body work.
I feel like I owe someone a steak dinner
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I will ask at the paint store. ...
Take one of the skirt seals with you so the folks behind the counter can see it. They're much softer and more flexible than a bumper cover.
I suspect getting paint to stick will be a real challenge, if it's even possible.
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Old 09-26-2021, 10:53 AM   #11
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Dmsfrr: I did not know all those great colors were offered for '57 Birds. Thanks for sharing that color chart!
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Old 09-26-2021, 04:38 PM   #12
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Dmsfrr: I did not know all those great colors were offered for '57 Birds. Thanks for sharing that color chart!
That chart came out pretty small and blurry.
Here are a couple links with much better images.
http://www.portholeauthority.com/thu.../colors57.html

http://automotivemileposts.com/tbird...1957tbird.html
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Some of the colors were 1958 colors. The 57 Birds were built up to mid December 57 when 58 car production was going on and the 58 Tbirds were not ready for production
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