Damned if you do and..............

[Ted Duke]

Some people just don't get it. Just read the newspapers. People killed everyday when they get ejected. Do they think they will land on their feet and run? Nope, on their head and die.

[huddy]

Seeing that photo totally convinced me - a picture being worth many more than 1,000 words in this case. I ordered three seat belt sets from Snyder's. When Enrico emerges from his cocoon the spring, the first thing that I do is install them. My nieces & nephews, not to mention my wife, deserve it.

[springerpete]

If you are mulling over the seat belt issue, and have been doing so for a while, there must be something nagging at you every time you get in your car. Put them in and see if you don't feel better about it. Check with friends who have belts and learn from them how they put them in. If your not convinced, take them out. ( bet you won't )

[31 Model A]

Originally Posted by springerpete

If you are mulling over the seat belt issue, and have been doing so for a while, there must be something nagging at you every time you get in your car.

"My understanding, there is no secure place on the Model A's body to secure seatbelts. For them to be really secure, they must be attached to the frame which seems to be dangerous in a wreck since the body separates from the frame quite easy causing more serious harm being cut into, one half goes with the body while the other half stays with the frame."

The above statement I made in the very first post is not my conclusion nor my opinion but it is what I have read by other concerned A drivers. Considering the safety standards today and the size of vehicles today and the speeds they travel, am I to install airbags too!!!!!!!!!!!!

There is nothing nagging at me when I get in, it's my life, as I said earlier, it's the safety of any passenger that I'd be concerned about. Maybe I should have titled this thread "To have passengers or not to have passengers"

What about the rumble seat......there's a whole other subject. It was more safe back then than it is now. I've already decided, for safety reason, the rumble will never be used for passengers.

[whirnot]

Originally Posted by Tom Wesenberg

In the 60's I added seat belts to my Corvair Spyder. The aftermarket belt kits came with a grade 8 bolt and a 3" fender washer to go under the floor pan. The car was totalled when some guy hit me in the rear and sent it into a telephone pole. The seat belt held fine and I had sore ribs from the belt pulling on my body.

Back in the day, this is how we installed them in Stock cars and they held fine. They were tested often.....

[pgerhardt]

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I was using, and got used to, seat belts years before driving (I started taking flying lessons when 14.) and now feel naked without them. BTW the first plane I flew was a Piper Colt with a fabric covered fuselage and there was never any question about not having a heavy frame to mount to.

Other than the safety aspects, seat belts also serve the purpose of keeping you anchored to the seat countering the lateral "Gs" encounter in turns, and the negative "Gs" of bumps.

[31 Model A]

Originally Posted by A bones

Using the excuse that some how the car will pull you apart because it ain't unibody construction is just that,-*(if you only secured the belt to the seat being occupied, you're still ahead of the game)*-using an excuse. Do what you like, i ask you, please, don't sell it to others.

For Christ's sake!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I've just about had it with this forum.

Read people, the whole damn thread first before assuming what a poster meant. Don't read between the lines.

CRAP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Paul from Maine]

I have never owned a vehicle where the seatbelts were attached to the frame. In most vehicles the lap belts were bolted to the sheet metal floor and the shoulder harness to a spindly door post. And what about uni-body vehicles? I mounted my lap belts to the great timber which crosses the width of the Town Sedan body just behind the front seat. If the body separates from the frame in a collision, at least I will be strapped securely within the body. If the collision is severe enough to fracture the wooden timber to which I attached my seatbelts, then I probably will also be speared by the steering post or mangled by wreckage or decapitated by the splintering wooden roof supports. I also heard that statistically most accidents happen within ten miles of home. So I moved to a place twelve miles away. No worries now!

Originally Posted by 31 Model A

"My understanding, there is no secure place on the Model A's body to secure seatbelts. For them to be really secure, they must be attached to the frame which seems to be dangerous in a wreck since the body separates from the frame quite easy causing more serious harm being cut into, one half goes with the body while the other half stays with the frame."

The above statement I made in the very first post is not my conclusion nor my opinion but it is what I have read by other concerned A drivers. Considering the safety standards today and the size of vehicles today and the speeds they travel, am I to install airbags too!!!!!!!!!!!!

There is nothing nagging at me when I get in, it's my life, as I said earlier, it's the safety of any passenger that I'd be concerned about. Maybe I should have titled this thread "To have passengers or not to have passengers"

What about the rumble seat......there's a whole other subject. It was more safe back then than it is now. I've already decided, for safety reason, the rumble will never be used for passengers.

[bambooboy]

31 model A,take a break for a few days,walk away &enjoy your car. 223 posts in 1 months is a lot of typing. tom

[TEX29]

What was the question again? I'm so confused...

[zzlegend]

So,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, ,,,,,,,how was everybody's turkey.

[Mitch//pa]

Originally Posted by bambooboy

31 model A,take a break for a few days,walk away &enjoy your car. 223 posts in 1 months is a lot of typing. tom

its 224 now

[Mitch//pa]

Originally Posted by zzlegend

So,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, ,,,,,,,how was everybody's turkey.

i had jerk turkey YA MON

[zzlegend]

Originally Posted by Mitch//pa

i had jerk turkey YA MON

I assume it was ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, ,,,,smoked?

[Fred K-OR]

Wow smoking post!

[DJ S]

This conversation went down hill real quick.

[DougVieyra]

If it has not been addressed before, In the interest of keeping originality and in keeping with the MAFCA / MARC Judging Standards for 'Fine Point', Blue Ribbon judging - what do the Judging Standards say about adding seat belts to your Model A ? Any point loss ? If so how much ?

Answer:
Model A RESTORATION GUIDELINES & JUDGING STANDARDS
Section 16 - Accessories :
"Several 'Safety Items' . . . WILL BE ALLOWED . . . and include Seat Belts."