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09-24-2013, 01:09 PM | #1 |
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How do I buy Bob Sherman thermostats?
The title says it all. I just installed the Stant 14157 therms and they must be stuck open because I still can't get any temperature in my engine. Just drove it 20 miles and it never went above 140*.
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09-24-2013, 01:58 PM | #2 |
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Re: How do I buy Bob Sherman thermostats?
His last name is Shewman. If you are a member of the EFV-8C/A, and get the V-8 Times, he has a 1/2 page ad with all his products shown. If by some slim chance you are not already a member of the EFV-8C/A, here is his contact info:
Robert Shewman PO Box 163 Kimberton, PA 19442 Email: [email protected]
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Re: How do I buy Bob Sherman thermostats?
Did you test the Stant stats before installing them in a pan of water on the stove with a thermometer in it? I always do. You might want to test them now and see if they're working right before replacing them. Could be something else. If this is for an 8ba engine, Shewman's stats should be OK for cooling but not so good for warm up as explained in post #11. If for 59A or earlier, you might want to read these threads about Shewman's stats before buying them: http://fordbarn.com/forum/showthread.php?t=112889 and https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/showthread.php?t=143576
You can order Shewman's thermostats on the phone or by email at 1-610-933-6637 or [email protected]m
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Re: How do I buy Bob Sherman thermostats?
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"If this is for our 8ba project, Shewman's stats should be OK. If for 59A or earlier, you might want to read this thread about Shewman's stats before buying them: http://fordbarn.com/forum/showthread.php?t=112889 " "Should be O K on an 8BA but read this thread for 59AB"?? What is the difference between an 8BA cooling requirement from a 59ab? Here is a fellow who just asked where to buy Shewman's stats. He apparently has read enough to make a decision. If you have not tested Shewman's stats personally, why are you raising this doubt?? John |
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09-24-2013, 06:26 PM | #7 |
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Apparently he has not read enough to make a wise decision. Charles
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09-25-2013, 06:09 AM | #8 |
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Re: How do I buy Bob Sherman thermostats?
Unfortunately I didn't check them prior to installation. They are definitely stuck open, with the rad. cap off I can see the water flowing at start up. I will pull them and see what I can do. I bought one locally and one off ebay.
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Re: How do I buy Bob Sherman thermostats?
Gene, when you get the Shewman stats installed, and run your car a bit with them, please give use some feedback here on how they work compared to the other stats that didn't. There has been so much "hoopla" posted here about various different thermostats that it's difficult to make any real sense from any of this information.
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It appears to me that most people have trouble cooling their cars so they need less restriction, but with mine I can't get enough heat in the engine. Granted, I haven't run it in 90* weather and in slow moving traffic. I'm just concerned about damaging the engine. I know there has been much conversation about therm or no therm, but I don't think it's healthy to run an engine at 130*.
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I just talked to Bob Shewman on the phone and his stat for the 8ba does, in fact, have those holes.
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Re: How do I buy Bob Sherman thermostats?
gkgeiger, if your engine is the 59A or earlier stick with the Stant stats but test them to make sure they work before installing them. Also, make sure you get them in right side up and secure them with either an extra hose clamp above them or wires down the side of the neck. Otherwise, they will likely get pushed up out of place, turn sideways, and do nothing. As I think more about the problem you've had, that may very well be it. Here's how I secure my thermostats in the neck of my 59A engine.
I pull a single strand of wire out of a piece of stranded wire, Cut it to 3½" length. and thread it through both sides of the thermostat like this. Then drape the wires down the side of the neck like this. Then push the hose down over it and tighten the hose clamp being sure that the clamp is at the top of the neck to grab the wires rather than at the bottom and possibly miss them.
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Re: How do I buy Bob Sherman thermostats?
It will be interesting to see when you pull your hoses off to take out the Stant stats to test them whether they are still in place or have, in fact, turned in position and how the stats test out. Let us know.
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Very useful guide. Thank you!
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I've since suggested one improvement on this idea. Twist the single strand of wire on itself on each side so that only one strand has to be compressed by the hose instead of two. It also holds the wire in place better during installation.
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09-25-2013, 01:20 PM | #19 |
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Problem solved. It wasn't the stats but my installation. The nylon tie didn't do it's job (stats twisted in hose allowing the water to bypass them). So I took a piece of 1 1/2" pvc (1 7/8") O.D. tubing and cut a 3/4" wide piece inserted it a little over an inch into the hose and clamped it with a screw clamp. Haven't driven it but it went to 160* in a few minutes idling in the driveway. Thanks to everyone who tried to assist me.
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Congratulations! It's always nice to find a nice clear cause of the problem with a nice simple, easy solution. Way to go. Glad it worked out for you.
Sorry I got so side tracked with all the 8ba stuff. For some reason I thought you had that engine in your car. My bad.
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