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Old 01-20-2024, 02:28 PM   #1
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Default 35/36 Pickup Seat Base

Is there a factory Ford blueprint for the plywood seat base for 1935 or 1936 pickups? Don Rogers might be the guy that would have one. Iím planning to make a handful of these plywood seat bases using a CNC router but I only have pictures to go off of for dimensions. I do have original seat springs but if I make some, I want to make them correct. I did find a CAD drawing someone drew on a later year base but some things seem a bit of or dimensions missing and I would like to find a copy of the Ford blueprint if it exists. I have the floorboard blueprint, and plan to make a handful of these as well, but just a little stuck not being able to find more info or an actual plywood seat base that I can use for specs.

I have six sheets of nice 5/8Ē plywood and plan to do a run of the floorboards and the seat bases, complete with the metal adjustment plates and turn buttons, if anyone is interested. Iíve attached pictures of what I have so far. The floorboard is finalized, but still uncertain on the seat base.

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Old 01-20-2024, 04:40 PM   #2
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Is there a factory Ford blueprint for the plywood seat base for 1935 or 1936 pickups? Don Rogers might be the guy that would have one. I’m planning to make a handful of these plywood seat bases using a CNC router but I only have pictures to go off of for dimensions. I do have original seat springs but if I make some, I want to make them correct. I did find a CAD drawing someone drew on a later year base but some things seem a bit of or dimensions missing and I would like to find a copy of the Ford blueprint if it exists. I have the floorboard blueprint, and plan to make a handful of these as well, but just a little stuck not being able to find more info or an actual plywood seat base that I can use for specs.

I have six sheets of nice 5/8” plywood and plan to do a run of the floorboards and the seat bases, complete with the metal adjustment plates and turn buttons, if anyone is interested. I’ve attached pictures of what I have so far. The floorboard is finalized, but still uncertain on the seat base.

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I am still looking for a factory blueprint for the seat base. Has anybody seen a copy of this?
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Probably doesn’t help but I have an original seat that I believe base is in good shape. Original to my 36 pickup.
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Probably doesnít help but I have an original seat that I believe base is in good shape. Original to my 36 pickup.
It might, but Iíd still like to find a copy of the original Ford blueprints if they exist. Is your seat base on an upholstered seat or separate?
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Floorboard No. 2 is Ford Part No. 50-810330. Here's the Ford Engineering drawing from late 1934 and a revised drawing from June 1935. I haven't studied them closely enough to understand the changes but these should give you a good starting point.

The seat base is Part No. 50-815360. I only have the Model 51 drawing which is different because of required clearance for the gas cap on the passenger side which is located inside the cab. Best thing to do is contact Michael at Third Gen. He has restored a 1935 and 1936 pickup and can probably sell you a seat bottom already done. He may also have the floorboard.

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Floorboard No. 2 is Ford Part No. 50-810330. Here's the Ford Engineering drawing from late 1934 and a revised drawing from June 1935. I haven't studied them closely enough to understand the changes but these should give you a good starting point.

The seat base is Part No. 50-815360. I only have the Model 51 drawing which is different because of required clearance for the gas cap on the passenger side which is located inside the cab. Best thing to do is contact Michael at Third Gen. He has restored a 1935 and 1936 pickup and can probably sell you a seat bottom already done. He may also have the floorboard.

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Floorboard No. 2 is Ford Part No. 50-810330. Here's the Ford Engineering drawing from late 1934 and a revised drawing from June 1935. I haven't studied them closely enough to understand the changes but these should give you a good starting point.

The seat base is Part No. 50-815360. I only have the Model 51 drawing which is different because of required clearance for the gas cap on the passenger side which is located inside the cab. Best thing to do is contact Michael at Third Gen. He has restored a 1935 and 1936 pickup and can probably sell you a seat bottom already done. He may also have the floorboard.

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I have these floorboard blueprints, but Iíd like to find the seat base blueprints. Even one for a truck would help. Iím assuming you didnít see my initial post, I own a CNC router and plan to make around 6 seat bases and about the same for the floorboards, more if there is a demand. Two are already spoken for. I have several sheets of nice 5/8Ē plywood to use. I just want to make certain they are dimensionally accurate. I think Iím pretty close with what I have drawn up for the seat base but I want to confirm the dimensions. There seems to be no options for guys with old Fords to buy wooden parts such as these, nice ones anyways. Sure, anyone can grab a piece of plywood and a jigsaw and cut out something thatíll work, but for those that donít want to make a mess and would prefer to have all the original details seen on original pieces, this could be an option. I have the machinery, why not put them to use. Iím already making and selling a dozen or more sheetmetal parts for the 35-37 pickups, why not offer a few wood pieces? Would you be willing to share the truck seat base blueprint?
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Certainly willing to share info. I got confused with the images of both the floorboard and the seat base. The attached is the only drawing I have. It's a bit out of focus so the dimensions aren't necessarily clear or easy to read.

Note that this is drawing 51-815400-A2 which means there were other versions. This version appears to be one made from several pieces of wood instead of a sheet of plywood. My original seat bottom was in very rough shape, but was originally plywood, so I think an interpretation based on this drawing using plywood would be appropriate. Also, I'm guessing the left side of this seat base drawing can be mirrored to make the right side symmetrical unlike the drawing and what's needed for the Model 51 trucks.

The thickness appears to be 0.81" or a heavy 3/4", more like 13/16". I use 3/4" for mine. Also note the hardware inserts for the seat back hinge attachment and protective metal strip for the three adjustment holes.
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Thanks Dave. This is helpful and I think you’re right about mirroring the left side.
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It might, but Iíd still like to find a copy of the original Ford blueprints if they exist. Is your seat base on an upholstered seat or separate?
Yes has old original upholstery unfortunately rats have destroyed it so it will need stripped.
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Certainly willing to share info. I got confused with the images of both the floorboard and the seat base. The attached is the only drawing I have. It's a bit out of focus so the dimensions aren't necessarily clear or easy to read.

Note that this is drawing 51-815400-A2 which means there were other versions. This version appears to be one made from several pieces of wood instead of a sheet of plywood. My original seat bottom was in very rough shape, but was originally plywood, so I think an interpretation based on this drawing using plywood would be appropriate. Also, I'm guessing the left side of this seat base drawing can be mirrored to make the right side symmetrical unlike the drawing and what's needed for the Model 51 trucks.

The thickness appears to be 0.81" or a heavy 3/4", more like 13/16". I use 3/4" for mine. Also note the hardware inserts for the seat back hinge attachment and protective metal strip for the three adjustment holes.
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Hello,

Here is my '36 Ford pickup hardwood seat base I purchased years ago from Lebaron-Bonney.

I know dimensionally it does not help you, but nice to look at though.

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Here is my '36 Ford pickup hardwood seat base I purchased years ago from Lebaron-Bonney.

I know dimensionally it does not help you, but nice to look at though.

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You should note that while you did purchase it from LeBaron & Bonney, there needs to be inserts cut in the wood where the hinges and adjustment plate goes. This is so that the metal of the hinge and the adjustment plate (for the 3 holes) are flush with the surface of the plywood.
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You should note that while you did purchase it from LeBaron & Bonney, there needs to be inserts cut in the wood where the hinges and adjustment plate goes. This is so that the metal of the hinge and the adjustment plate (for the 3 holes) are flush with the surface of the plywood.
Correct, and that does appear to be the bottom side that’s pictured.
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Are the 1935 thru 1939 Pickup seat bases the same? I'm pretty sure in 1940 the backrests vertical hinge straps were moved to a narrower position. Can somebody confirm this for me?

Also, I know the trucks seat base is different from the pickups but are all the 1935 thru 1939 Truck seat bases the same?

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Unfortunately I can't answer your two questions. My copies of Ford engineering drawings and part releases for the seat base and floorboard number 2 only cover 1935 through 1936.
With the Ford archives closed, the only way to figure this out, unless someone else can tell you, is to get a 1939 Ford Body Parts Catalog and see if the prefix on the part number changed anytime in 1937-39. Wish I could be of more help.
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