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30ccpickup · 07-02-2017, 08:47 AM

Why can't you mix grease and oil together to make your own slurry for the steering box?

BILL WILLIAMSON · 07-02-2017, 09:09 AM

Minerva was pumped partly full with a "clear" grease. Apparently pumped in from the fitting at the bottom. Topped it off with Valvoline Synthetic 70-90 & it gradually got EASIER & EASIER to steer & DIDN'T leak! I kinda' stirred it, with a skinny welding wire.
Bill Success

Gary WA · 07-02-2017, 09:14 AM

You Can! I use stp and graphite grease.

Bob Bidonde · 07-02-2017, 09:18 AM

I have been pumping in synthetic chassis grease followed by a few ounces of synthetic hypoid gear oil since 1962 without any ill effects, and it doesn't leak!

I recently restored a 2-tooth steering box with all of the sealing gimmicks on the market, and it leaked. So I put grease into this box too!

30ccpickup · 07-02-2017, 09:30 AM

It was kinda a loaded question I have been doing it for four or five years, but I have not seen it recommended when people ask "what to use in steering box?"

WHN · 07-02-2017, 11:33 AM

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John Deere Cornhead grease.

U-joint and steering. Works great and doesn't leak out.

Kevin in NJ · 07-02-2017, 12:43 PM

We know what is correct and you can buy it.

You can try anything you want, but is it what it needs?

1931 flamingo · 07-02-2017, 12:49 PM

PennRite steering box lube............................NO LEAKY.
Paul in CT

BILL WILLIAMSON · 07-02-2017, 01:40 PM

In the '50s, we put a fitting in the filler plug & filled it with chassis grease, mixed with STP.
Did this on my '32 & lubed all the DRY fittings, with the same stuff---Then, DAMIT, it started to SHIMMY!--- Chief sed, "I tole you so, you wouldn't LISTEN, as USUAL"!! He DIDN'T mince his wurds---LOL
Bill Huh?

30ccpickup · 07-02-2017, 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kevin in NJ

We know what is correct and you can buy it.

You can try anything you want, but is it what it needs?

Kevin this is the label on the 600 oil from a vendor, supposedly it is the correct stuff.... As along as it has the modern seals. I just make it a little thicker with grease.

Mike V. Florida · 07-02-2017, 11:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 30ccpickup

Why can't you mix grease and oil together to make your own slurry for the steering box?

Some oils and grease won't stay mixed.

RonC · 07-03-2017, 09:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 30ccpickup

Kevin this is the label on the 600 oil from a vendor, supposedly it is the correct stuff.... As along as it has the modern seals. I just make it a little thicker with grease.

This is the real deal. There are a few other brands. Shell Omala S2 G 680
www.kellerheartt.com

Jeff/Illinois · 07-03-2017, 10:15 AM

One nice thing about the 600W leaking out overnight after you fill the steering box is, you never have to flush out the S.B. to clean it

The 600W in my garage floor drip pan was always as clean as what was in the bottle.

Maybe I should have just been pouring THAT right back in.

duke36 · 07-03-2017, 11:08 AM

again here is a viscosity chart. ISO 680 is equivalent to SAE 140 according to the chart.
The challenge is to find SAE 250 or above.

07-02-2017, 08:47 AM	#1
30ccpickup Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Wakarusa, IN Posts: 928	Grease Oil Steering Box Why can't you mix grease and oil together to make your own slurry for the steering box? __________________ http://MODELABASICS.com/ How Things Work on a Model "A" Ford Fordbarners, Feel free to use the pictures on my site to answer questions and create tutorials/tech articles.

07-02-2017, 09:09 AM	#2
BILL WILLIAMSON Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: FRESNO, CA Posts: 12,560	Re: Grease Oil Steering Box Minerva was pumped partly full with a "clear" grease. Apparently pumped in from the fitting at the bottom. Topped it off with Valvoline Synthetic 70-90 & it gradually got EASIER & EASIER to steer & DIDN'T leak! I kinda' stirred it, with a skinny welding wire. Bill Success __________________ "THE ASSISTANT GURU OF STUFF"

07-02-2017, 09:18 AM	#4
Bob Bidonde Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Long Island, NY Posts: 3,463	Re: Grease Oil Steering Box I have been pumping in synthetic chassis grease followed by a few ounces of synthetic hypoid gear oil since 1962 without any ill effects, and it doesn't leak! I recently restored a 2-tooth steering box with all of the sealing gimmicks on the market, and it leaked. So I put grease into this box too! __________________ Bob Bidonde

07-02-2017, 09:30 AM	#5
30ccpickup Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Wakarusa, IN Posts: 928	Re: Grease Oil Steering Box It was kinda a loaded question I have been doing it for four or five years, but I have not seen it recommended when people ask "what to use in steering box?" __________________ http://MODELABASICS.com/ How Things Work on a Model "A" Ford Fordbarners, Feel free to use the pictures on my site to answer questions and create tutorials/tech articles.

07-02-2017, 11:33 AM	#6
WHN Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2017 Location: Connecticut Shoreline Posts: 1,823	Re: Grease Oil Steering Box Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) John Deere Cornhead grease. U-joint and steering. Works great and doesn't leak out.

07-02-2017, 12:43 PM	#7
Kevin in NJ Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: South East NJ Posts: 3,398	Re: Grease Oil Steering Box We know what is correct and you can buy it. You can try anything you want, but is it what it needs?

07-02-2017, 12:49 PM	#8
1931 flamingo Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: new britain,ct 06052 Posts: 9,390	Re: Grease Oil Steering Box PennRite steering box lube............................NO LEAKY. Paul in CT

07-02-2017, 01:40 PM	#9
BILL WILLIAMSON Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: FRESNO, CA Posts: 12,560	Re: Grease Oil Steering Box In the '50s, we put a fitting in the filler plug & filled it with chassis grease, mixed with STP. Did this on my '32 & lubed all the DRY fittings, with the same stuff---Then, DAMIT, it started to SHIMMY!--- Chief sed, "I tole you so, you wouldn't LISTEN, as USUAL"!! He DIDN'T mince his wurds---LOL Bill Huh? __________________ "THE ASSISTANT GURU OF STUFF"

07-03-2017, 10:15 AM	#13
Jeff/Illinois Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 2,789	Re: Grease Oil Steering Box One nice thing about the 600W leaking out overnight after you fill the steering box is, you never have to flush out the S.B. to clean it The 600W in my garage floor drip pan was always as clean as what was in the bottle. Maybe I should have just been pouring THAT right back in.

07-03-2017, 11:08 AM	#14
duke36 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2015 Posts: 1,414	Re: Grease Oil Steering Box again here is a viscosity chart. ISO 680 is equivalent to SAE 140 according to the chart. The challenge is to find SAE 250 or above. Last edited by duke36; 09-06-2017 at 07:04 PM.