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Old 05-09-2019, 03:54 PM   #1
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Ok so I was able to replace a front brake hose on our 1942 Ford truck without a hitch today (thank you PB B’laster!) but I’m unsure how to bleed them. The bolt above the hose on the back side of the master cylinder looks like an adjuster of some sort, but not a bleeder.

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Old 05-09-2019, 04:14 PM   #2
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the bleeder should be at the wheel cylinder just above the hose
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Ok perfect, thanks!


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Old 05-10-2019, 12:28 AM   #4
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Do it the easy way. Get a hand pump oil can and fill it with brake fluid. Put a piece of rubber hose on the end. Put the other end on your bleeder. Open the bleeder and Pump fluid into the cylinder and up the brake line into the master cylinder. No mess, no muss, no fuss.
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Do it the easy way. Get a hand pump oil can and fill it with brake fluid. Put a piece of rubber hose on the end. Put the other end on your bleeder. Open the bleeder and Pump fluid into the cylinder and up the brake line into the master cylinder. No mess, no muss, no fuss.
If this is what the bleeder screw looks like, " No mess, no muss, no fuss." is just wishful thinking.
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Old 05-10-2019, 06:41 AM   #6
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I am guessing but you may have an original style bleeder with a small screw on top to block dirt from entering. If so remove the top screw, then loosed the hex under it to open the system for bleeding. Brake fluid will come out of the center opening that was blocked by the screw you removed. When finished tighten the hex to seal the system and reinstall the top screw. The car and light commercial bleeder looks like the photo below. The big truck has a larger bleeder of the same style.
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Old 05-10-2019, 06:44 AM   #7
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You might do better to replace the bleed fittings with one that has a nub to take a bleeder pipe. If the bleed fittings are the early type, it could be that the cylinders are long overdue an overhaul or replacement.
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Old 05-10-2019, 07:03 AM   #8
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Yes, I have the original type and not the common type of bleeder. I’m not in a position to pull the wheels off the truck so I’m hoping a simple bleeding will be enough to get them to work. The brakes have been working pretty well so far.

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Yes, I have the original type and not the common type of bleeder. I’m not in a position to pull the wheels off the truck so I’m hoping a simple bleeding will be enough to get them to work. The brakes have been working pretty well so far.

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If you are talking about pulling the wheels off to replace the bleed screw, the screw can be replaced without removing the wheels.
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Old 05-10-2019, 09:54 AM   #10
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If you are talking about pulling the wheels off to replace the bleed screw, the screw can be replaced without removing the wheels.


Nope, it was suggested that I replace the wheel cylinder if they are that old.


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Ok so I was able to replace a front brake hose on our 1942 Ford truck without a hitch today (thank you PB B’laster!) but I’m unsure how to bleed them. The bolt above the hose on the back side of the master cylinder looks like an adjuster of some sort, but not a bleeder.

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I'd be careful with that RUSTED WHEEL !
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Looks more like wrinkled paint from brake fluid dripping
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Looks more like wrinkled paint from brake fluid dripping


Correct. It’s been dripping for quite a number of years!


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Old 05-10-2019, 04:54 PM   #14
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42 fire truck?
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42 fire truck?




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So, will a standard bleeder screw with a nipple thread into the place the bolt is? Wondering if it’s the same thread pitch etc as a modern, sae bleeder


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If the brake flid is that old in the truck you need to bleed the hole system and get that contaminated fluid out of there. Suck out all the old fluid from the master cylinder and fill it up. Start with the furthest wheel (Right rear) and bleed it until you see clean fluid coming out. Make sure not to let the master cylinder reservoir go dry. Next do the left rear. Then the right front and last the left front.

Since you only have a single system you want these hydraulics to be in perfect condition. As old as this is they really should be rebuilt from one end to the other. All new hoses and and a rebuilt master cylinder and wheel cylinders. If you don't do it you better keep an eye on that master cylinder reservoir level. Check it before you drive it "everytime" to make sure the fluid has not leaked out. Watch the backing plates for signs of leakage, like the wrinkled paint in your photo. Brake fluid eats paint.

Its not that big a deal to pull the rear drums if they have floating axles. Its just a little messier!
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So, will a standard bleeder screw with a nipple thread into the place the bolt is? Wondering if it’s the same thread pitch etc as a modern, sae bleeder


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Yes, but as this is a truck part I can't advise on what thread it is.
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Go buy a thread pitch gauge at an auto parts store or hardware store. They are cheap.
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I’m gonna pull it out Monday am and match it to my thread pitch gauge. Has to be a standard item.


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