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V4F · 01-30-2011, 08:51 PM

ive done that tom & all lines up . when the pin is in the hole , #1 is up , both valves closed & timing indicator is correct . have i done something wrong ?? ... steve

Tom Wesenberg · 01-30-2011, 09:15 PM

Do the easiest checks first. If you are unsure if it's fuel or ignition then pull the coil wire and hold it 1/4" from the head and see if you have a good blue spark at least 1/4" long while cranking. If you do then I'd think you have a fuel problem. Since you have a fuel pump and downdraft carb I won't get into that, but let us know what the spark looks like.

V4F · 01-31-2011, 11:33 AM

thank you tom . im goin out there now & will let you know . thanks again ... steve
i think im to close to the forrest to see the trees

1931 flamingo · 01-31-2011, 12:20 PM

Is by any chance the pop-out cable (or new style screwed in too far to dist. With key on and points closed, do you get a spark when you open the points??
Paul in CT

V4F · 01-31-2011, 02:23 PM

yes i get spark . i checked that also . thank you for the thought . back to the garage to see if maybe it fixed itself over nite ! LOL ...... steve

** im going to start from scratch & see if i can find my error .

V4F · 01-31-2011, 03:32 PM

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well , got the timing cover off & no marks on the new cam gear ! but by putting it at tdc b 4 i pulled it , it appears as tho it is off by a few teeth . really confused now with no marks ! model 'a's are so much fun ! ............. steve
any ideas on how i might retime this ???

V4F · 01-31-2011, 07:23 PM

well pulled the cam gear , retimed , no good . start again tommorrow . cranks really slow like it is out of time . i know ... no shit dick tracy ......... thanks all .. steve

Tom Wesenberg · 01-31-2011, 11:26 PM

I'm pretty sure the SERVICE BULLETINS has a picture of how the timing marks look and how they mate to each other.

V4F · 01-31-2011, 11:33 PM

tom , i just talked to the manufacture & got info i needed . gonna give it a go tommorrow . thanks .. steve

V4F · 02-01-2011, 10:42 AM

well i will see how good the info is . i sure hope ive found the problem ....... steve

NoSurf · 02-01-2011, 03:21 PM

Good Luck!!!

Ice man · 02-01-2011, 04:03 PM

Many years ago, I had a 30 that would only run if the choke was closed, throttle was open, and it would run at a very slow idle for hours. Found the problem was a almost plugged gas line. Was getting enough gas to run, very slow. Fixed the stopage and she was a runner. Iceman

V4F · 02-01-2011, 07:54 PM

well thanks to youall , i got it runnin ! multiple problems . i hate it when that happens ! cam timing out , thus dist timing out . so all is good here & again i really thank you all for your help ! .................... steve

1931 flamingo · 02-02-2011, 09:49 AM

Congratulations!!!
Paul in CT

V4F · 02-02-2011, 10:50 AM

thank you , but i must thank bagpiper as i hijacked his thread . thank youall as always , the barn came thru ! been on here for a few & you can ALWAYS depend on you guys for help . thank youall again & ryan +(model 'a' lady) for the forum ....... steve

01-30-2011, 08:51 PM	#21
V4F Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: ca. Posts: 2,522	Re: '29 timing ive done that tom & all lines up . when the pin is in the hole , #1 is up , both valves closed & timing indicator is correct . have i done something wrong ?? ... steve __________________ V4f

01-30-2011, 09:15 PM	#22
Tom Wesenberg Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Mpls, MN Posts: 27,582	Re: '29 timing Do the easiest checks first. If you are unsure if it's fuel or ignition then pull the coil wire and hold it 1/4" from the head and see if you have a good blue spark at least 1/4" long while cranking. If you do then I'd think you have a fuel problem. Since you have a fuel pump and downdraft carb I won't get into that, but let us know what the spark looks like.

01-31-2011, 11:33 AM	#23
V4F Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: ca. Posts: 2,522	Re: '29 timing thank you tom . im goin out there now & will let you know . thanks again ... steve i think im to close to the forrest to see the trees __________________ V4f

01-31-2011, 12:20 PM	#24
1931 flamingo Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: new britain,ct 06052 Posts: 9,390	Re: '29 timing Is by any chance the pop-out cable (or new style screwed in too far to dist. With key on and points closed, do you get a spark when you open the points?? Paul in CT

01-31-2011, 02:23 PM	#25
V4F Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: ca. Posts: 2,522	Re: '29 timing yes i get spark . i checked that also . thank you for the thought . back to the garage to see if maybe it fixed itself over nite ! LOL ...... steve im going to start from scratch & see if i can find my error . __________________ V4f**

01-31-2011, 03:32 PM	#26
V4F Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: ca. Posts: 2,522	Re: '29 timing Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) well , got the timing cover off & no marks on the new cam gear ! but by putting it at tdc b 4 i pulled it , it appears as tho it is off by a few teeth . really confused now with no marks ! model 'a's are so much fun ! ............. steve any ideas on how i might retime this ??? __________________ V4f

01-31-2011, 07:23 PM	#27
V4F Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: ca. Posts: 2,522	Re: '29 timing well pulled the cam gear , retimed , no good . start again tommorrow . cranks really slow like it is out of time . i know ... no shit dick tracy ......... thanks all .. steve __________________ V4f Last edited by V4F; 01-31-2011 at 08:53 PM.

01-31-2011, 11:26 PM	#28
Tom Wesenberg Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Mpls, MN Posts: 27,582	Re: '29 timing I'm pretty sure the SERVICE BULLETINS has a picture of how the timing marks look and how they mate to each other.

01-31-2011, 11:33 PM	#29
V4F Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: ca. Posts: 2,522	Re: '29 timing tom , i just talked to the manufacture & got info i needed . gonna give it a go tommorrow . thanks .. steve __________________ V4f

02-01-2011, 10:42 AM	#30
V4F Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: ca. Posts: 2,522	Re: '29 timing well i will see how good the info is . i sure hope ive found the problem ....... steve __________________ V4f

02-01-2011, 03:21 PM	#31
NoSurf Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Plymouth NH Posts: 70	Re: '29 timing Good Luck!!!

02-01-2011, 04:03 PM	#32
Ice man Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Southern Pines, N.Carolina Posts: 210	Re: '29 timing Many years ago, I had a 30 that would only run if the choke was closed, throttle was open, and it would run at a very slow idle for hours. Found the problem was a almost plugged gas line. Was getting enough gas to run, very slow. Fixed the stopage and she was a runner. Iceman

02-01-2011, 07:54 PM	#33
V4F Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: ca. Posts: 2,522	Re: '29 timing well thanks to youall , i got it runnin ! multiple problems . i hate it when that happens ! cam timing out , thus dist timing out . so all is good here & again i really thank you all for your help ! .................... steve __________________ V4f

02-02-2011, 09:49 AM	#34
1931 flamingo Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: new britain,ct 06052 Posts: 9,390	Re: '29 timing Congratulations!!! Paul in CT

02-02-2011, 10:50 AM	#35
V4F Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: ca. Posts: 2,522	Re: '29 timing thank you , but i must thank bagpiper as i hijacked his thread . thank youall as always , the barn came thru ! been on here for a few & you can ALWAYS depend on you guys for help . thank youall again & ryan +(model 'a' lady) for the forum ....... steve __________________ V4f