Go Back   The Ford Barn > General Discussion > Model A (1928-31)

Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements)

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 09-09-2011, 08:02 PM   #1
connecticut mike
Member
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Somers Connecticut
Posts: 37
Default Black A's were rare?

Good evening,

The "Paint & Finish Guide" published by MAFCA reads on page 22 of the 3RD Edition, "Ford built bodies were rarely painted black."

Is this a correct statement? I think that I've seen more black A"s than other colors.

Mike
connecticut mike is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-09-2011, 08:09 PM   #2
Michael in Sedona
Senior Member
 
Michael in Sedona's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Sedona, Arizona
Posts: 178
Default Re: Black A's were rare?

My understanding is that black was pretty much a special order color. Many A's were probably repainted black as they aged, since it was an easy color to obtain.
Michael in Sedona is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements)
Old 09-09-2011, 08:23 PM   #3
Greg Jones
Senior Member
 
Greg Jones's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Aiken, South Carolina
Posts: 639
Default Re: Black A's were rare?

I know that black was offered on the 1930 Standard Coupe-mine is black. And also the Standard Roadster if I am not mistaken. So it was available as a "color" in standard production.
Greg Jones is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-09-2011, 08:47 PM   #4
Steve Plucker
BANNED
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Walla Walla, Washington USA
Posts: 6,066
Default Re: Black A's were rare?

My September 1929 Standard Coupe was Black and not Andilucite Blue as some think.

It was the original color and was never repainted along the way.

Pluck
Steve Plucker is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-09-2011, 09:04 PM   #5
Steve Ciccalone
Senior Member
 
Steve Ciccalone's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: "Live Free or Die!"
Posts: 510
Default Re: Black A's were rare?

Black was uncommon in 1928. FoMoCo downplayed the color. It was available as an option from start of production until the 1930 models were introduced. These cars through end of production were offered in black as a standard color.
__________________
"A wet bird doesn't fly at night."
Steve Ciccalone is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-09-2011, 11:33 PM   #6
Mike V. Florida
Senior Member
 
Mike V. Florida's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: South Florida
Posts: 14,052
Send a message via AIM to Mike V. Florida
Default Re: Black A's were rare?

Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements)
In my case, I've rarely seen a black Model A.
__________________
What's right about America is that although we have a mess of problems, we have great capacity - intellect and resources - to do some thing about them. - Henry Ford II
Mike V. Florida is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-10-2011, 12:28 AM   #7
Skipper Mc/Louisiana
Member
 
Skipper Mc/Louisiana's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Baton Rouge, LA
Posts: 65
Default Re: Black A's were rare?

My "barn find' 1929 De Luxe Delivery still has the factory black paint for the body and a faint pinstripe. The body has not been repainted and this light commercial was acquired from the family that bought it new in 1929.
Skipper Mc/Louisiana is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-10-2011, 07:39 AM   #8
1931 flamingo
Senior Member
 
1931 flamingo's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: new britain,ct 06052
Posts: 8,987
Default Re: Black A's were rare?

Being a delux delivery, which was probably specially ordered black. JMO
Paul in CT
1931 flamingo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-10-2011, 07:56 AM   #9
Steve Ciccalone
Senior Member
 
Steve Ciccalone's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: "Live Free or Die!"
Posts: 510
Default Re: Black A's were rare?

CT Mike, I misread your initial post. The statement in the Paint Guide means that bodies supplied by outside builders like Briggs and Murray were more likely to be black as opposed to bodies made in house like roadsters and phaetons.
__________________
"A wet bird doesn't fly at night."
Steve Ciccalone is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-10-2011, 10:48 AM   #10
Jim Brierley
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Temecula, CA
Posts: 3,548
Default Re: Black A's were rare?

Growing up in the 40's all I remember were black.
Jim Brierley is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-10-2011, 10:49 AM   #11
msmaron
Senior Member
 
msmaron's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Wauconda, IL
Posts: 3,556
Send a message via AIM to msmaron
Default Re: Black A's were rare?

My 160c was offered in black with a Apple Green Stripe and wheels...To which i have having mime re-done as we speak in that color combo!
__________________
Mark Maron
Ill., Region MARC & MAFCA
MARC JSC Member
2022 Morgantown National Meet Chief Judge
National Facebook Admin.
https://www.facebook.com/groups/MARC.group/

A7191-Sport Coupe
29 Roadster
29-Town Sedan
msmaron is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-10-2011, 04:26 PM   #12
jkcrosson
Senior Member
 
jkcrosson's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Pell City AL
Posts: 720
Default Re: Black A's were rare?

Oddly I found read thru this post today. I have always assumed my unrestored car to have originally been one of the '29 blues. Today, in a box of new parts I bought recently I found an old but very presentable data plate. Mine although still intact was just a metal plate with no information left. I removed the original data plate and low and behold underneath it was Black. Other that wiping it down, I did nothing to disturb Henry's original paint. I will take pictures and put the data plate back over it.
__________________
Jamie Crosson
1929 Tudor
Looking for an Original 888 Key
jkcrosson is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-10-2011, 04:35 PM   #13
peters180a/170b
Senior Member
 
peters180a/170b's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Putnam Valley N.Y.
Posts: 2,151
Default Re: Black A's were rare?

My Deluxe Phaeton[Mid 1930] was black w/ the red wheels from the start and that's the way i restored it. But hard to keep clean. :>( Now i am starting on a early 1930 Briggs standard fordor and that too was Black from the start.[but i think i'll pick a color other then black...]
peters180a/170b is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-10-2011, 05:30 PM   #14
gweilbaker
Senior Member
 
gweilbaker's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Lindenhurst, IL
Posts: 792
Default Re: Black A's were rare?

My late 31 deluxe coupe is black with apple green strips. A very handsome color combination.

GW
gweilbaker is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-10-2011, 06:23 PM   #15
rpm2831
Junior Member
 
rpm2831's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Duckroost , Louisiana
Posts: 27
Default Re: Black A's were rare?

My 1930 standard coupe was originally green which I found at the bottom of the firewall. It was painted black many years before I got it .I painted the coupe black with English Coach vermillin red pintripe when I restored it(my avator).Ray in Duckroost.
rpm2831 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-10-2011, 07:15 PM   #16
Special Coupe Frank
Senior Member
 
Special Coupe Frank's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Northeast Penna
Posts: 2,108
Default Re: Black A's were rare?

From reading the Judging Standards and the Paint & Finish Guide, I was given to understand that black was NOT a standard color on '28 & '29 models, but could have been special-ordered.

From 1930 thru end of production, black became a standard color.

From what I remember reading , I don't recall seeing black on any of the color charts in the JS or P&FG for '28 & '29 models.

I think initially, Ford was trying to shake the "you can have any color you want as long as it's black" stigma...

( NOT saying there were NO black '28 -'29's, just that they were probably uncommon.)
Special Coupe Frank is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-10-2011, 07:27 PM   #17
jkcrosson
Senior Member
 
jkcrosson's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Pell City AL
Posts: 720
Default Re: Black A's were rare?

[QUOTE
( NOT saying there were NO black '28 -'29's, just that they were probably uncommon.)[/QUOTE]

Thus my surprise when I found black under the original data plate.
__________________
Jamie Crosson
1929 Tudor
Looking for an Original 888 Key
jkcrosson is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-10-2011, 08:03 PM   #18
LSGUN
Senior Member
 
LSGUN's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: TX
Posts: 230
Default Re: Black A's were rare?

I read somewhere that the color black was commonly associated at the time with the older out of date cars (Model T) so Ford was trying to shake that with the Model A.
LSGUN is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-10-2011, 08:39 PM   #19
WTSHNN
Senior Member
 
WTSHNN's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Chicago
Posts: 1,237
Default Re: Black A's were rare?

So my question is...how did they determine what color to paint the non-special ordered bodies on the line?

Did they alternate every color as each body style came in? Did two coupes in a row get painted the same XYZ color combo? Did Joe Blow, working on the line, get to decide "nah, I don't really like the greens, today I'm only painting cars blue and brown?" Or, did they work against an all-mighty Ford production list?

Something I never thought about until I started reading this thread.
-Tim
WTSHNN is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-10-2011, 08:56 PM   #20
rogerkb1936
Senior Member
 
rogerkb1936's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Posts: 742
Default Re: Black A's were rare?

black is the predominate color on cars and junk i have seen with some bits of original paint left. i always thot that was because it weathered better
rogerkb1936 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements)


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:25 PM.