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Old 04-07-2016, 10:29 PM   #1
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I misplaced the wood block dwg.from the Restorer used to help with brake adjustment. Can someone post it with dimensions, etc? Thanks.
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Old 04-07-2016, 10:48 PM   #2
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It's described in this video;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wMizfaKHXVQ
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Old 04-08-2016, 06:40 AM   #3
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Default Re: brake adjustment stepped wood block

Each car might be a little different. Depends on seat position.

http://www.lionsgatemodelaclub.com/T...Adjustment.PDF
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Old 04-08-2016, 07:48 AM   #4
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Default Re: brake adjustment stepped wood block

I made mine by measuring the distance between the pedal at full travel and the seat, then "stepping off" the smaller dimensions.
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Old 04-09-2016, 06:10 AM   #5
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Default Re: brake adjustment stepped wood block

Make it dual purpose:

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Old 04-09-2016, 10:03 AM   #6
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You DON'T need the block!
1 Disconnect all 4 operating rods @ the operating levers.
2 Adjust all 4 brakes in the usual manner.
3 Push gently on the operating lever & pull firmly on each rod, then adjust each clevis, until the pin will just slip in the hole, & then you're set to go. NEXT time, you DON'T have to adjust the RODS.
4 IF one wheel "grabs" slightly, just back off its' adjuster, 1 or 2 notches.
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Old 04-09-2016, 10:48 AM   #7
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Default Re: brake adjustment stepped wood block

Right on Bill...After the rods are adjusted I then use a heat gun to re-check drag after a drive. (As suggested by a fellow club member).

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Old 04-09-2016, 10:50 AM   #8
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You DON'T need the block!
1 Disconnect all 4 operating rods @ the operating levers.
2 Adjust all 4 brakes in the usual manner.
3 Push gently on the operating lever & pull firmly on each rod, then adjust each clevis, until the pin will just slip in the hole, & then you're set to go. NEXT time, you DON'T have to adjust the RODS.
4 IF one wheel "grabs" slightly, just back off its' adjuster, 1 or 2 notches.
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Yep agree 100 and 10 %. You don't need no stinkin wood
Very inaccurate
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Old 04-09-2016, 01:10 PM   #9
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Default Re: brake adjustment stepped wood block

Further it not good, that at an emergency stop the rear wheels would lock up prior to the the front wheels. This adjustment is described with the wood block.

All modern cars are for safety reasons set up, that the front brakes would lock up first.
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Old 04-09-2016, 03:53 PM   #10
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Default Re: brake adjustment stepped wood block

With a non-energizing brake [ such as we have] I prefer the rears to come on slightly before the fronts. I'm one that prefers the brake board, but, I adjust the brakes slightly different than most folks. I've had to use brakes, and, they work. All 4 will lock up.

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Just think of it this way, with HYDRAULIC brakes, they all apply at the SAME time. The 60/40 relationship of brake effectiveness, is caused by car weight transfer, when stopping. Chiefs' '62 Ford Short Bed was NOTORIOUS for locking up the rear brakes, so he carried 2 bags of sand in the rear of the bed. Brake proportioning valves were added later, to limit hydraulic pressure to the rears. When the rears lock up on a hard stop, it gets EXCITING!! Both Chief & I have done 180 degree spin arounds, in that DANGED truck!!!
Now, there are ADJUSTABLE proportioning valves that can be added, to correct this problem.
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Old 04-10-2016, 11:07 AM   #12
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Default Re: brake adjustment stepped wood block

Have adjusted mech. brakes as in posts 6-9 without the wood; just curious if there is any difference with the block because I don't understand, when manually adjusting each wheel for proper lining to drum clearance, how rears would lock up 1st if all brake rods are set up. Perhaps I should have asked the question whether the wood block is a viable method.
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Old 04-10-2016, 12:24 PM   #13
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Have adjusted mech. brakes as in posts 6-9 without the wood; just curious if there is any difference with the block because I don't understand, when manually adjusting each wheel for proper lining to drum clearance, how rears would lock up 1st if all brake rods are set up. Perhaps I should have asked the question whether the wood block is a viable method.
The fronts are applied by a wedge pushed down, and the rears are applied by a rotating ramp, so the rate of movement might be different between the two. Also the length of the levers working the links might be different to give one end of the car more braking force.
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Why do we OVERTHINK brake adjustment? Just do them as in Post# 6 & you'll be OK to go!
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I use the wood piece and it works for me. I have not tried another method. I guess we all use what seems to works for us. Always good to know other methods.
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