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02-06-2019, 08:27 AM | #21 |
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Re: Preservation vs Restoration
Go the preservation route then if doesn't suit you restore it. You can always restore but you can never go back!
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02-06-2019, 09:06 AM | #22 |
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If you are buying it as an investment expecting to make money on it, leave it as is. The more money you put in, the less likely you will get it back out in most cases. However, if you are buying it because you want it, then do whatever will make you enjoy it the most.
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02-06-2019, 09:08 AM | #23 |
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"Restored"? just what does that mean? a 3 color car with wide whites and turn signals?.Modifications 'for touring' allowed?.There was a time when 'restoring' model a's and racing Hubley cars was in fashion,nowadays the clubs are geriatric,cant tell you how many younger owners come to one meeting and never return..Look no further than the hotrod pages on facebook,the guys needed to keep the hobby alive..30 to 50 somethings with money..are buying older restorations and hotrodding them.The new blood didn't have a father regale them with stories of 5 dollar A's run on drain oil..nope,they see sexy,and a 3 color model a with wide whites driven by a guy with velcro sneakers aint sexy..Get hip,the patina cars and modifieds are the way of the future.Bangers,FAST and TROG are where the future lies,the only hope for a dying tradition..model A's with stock components need to evolve,or they all will fall to the saw..
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02-06-2019, 09:09 AM | #24 |
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Post 6, Paul; I am doing a CCPU the same as what you are doing except I can't bring myself to change to a Weber or Hydraulic brakes. The brake question has been addressed here many times but the wheels can only slide just so hard regardless of how you accomplish it. I would suggest that you look into using tongue oil and turpentine with four ought steel wool over the rusty finish. Patina 101. Good luck, Jack
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02-06-2019, 09:12 AM | #25 |
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The unrestored cars ALWAYS get more attention when you take them out, IMHO.
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02-06-2019, 09:28 AM | #26 |
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02-06-2019, 10:34 AM | #27 |
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I would think that what really matters is making you happy. No matter what you do there will be people agreeing and disagreeing. That’s just life.
A very well cared for Model A, that is priced right, will be able to find a new home. There are a lot of Model A’s and there is a lot of junk out there. I would get all the mechanicals in good order and go from there. I always tell people that’s it’s a hobby. Something like owning a boat. The reason we have them is for enjoyment. If your looking at it as an investment? I would recommend you look someplace else. Enjoy. |
02-06-2019, 10:59 AM | #28 |
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Yes, do what makes you happy and don't worry about anyone else
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02-06-2019, 12:04 PM | #29 |
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Hey Jack -
I will try it. What ratio tongue oil to terps would be good? Thanks. Bj |
02-06-2019, 01:58 PM | #30 | |
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As has been pointed out in this thread, "original" means different things to different people. I agree it means what came out of the factory but my definition ends there. Seat upholstery with a hole worn in it may have been originally installed in the car but it is no longer as it left the factory. |
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02-06-2019, 02:03 PM | #31 | |
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02-06-2019, 11:46 PM | #32 |
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I think its all subjective. To me restoration can be preservation. To replace worn out pieces with new pieces keeps the vehicle running and around for many more years.
With talk about history of the vehicle. I think if you take a decent car and restore it is making your own history and the next possible owner could feel the same way about preserving it. With my grandfather's truck that I have now I plan to keep it the way it looks as long as possible. But that is because I have my own history with the vehicle. I will fix/repair what needs to be fixed. The one thing I plan to keep completely off limits is the writing on the side. Getting the cab repainted, redoing the engine, or any other updates wouldn't bother me. If I didn't have a connection to it I would want my own history to be made that I can enjoy. A vehicle's history may not be known to you and all you are left to do is wonder about it. Fix it, change it, add to that history. |
02-07-2019, 08:12 AM | #33 |
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Paul; I use half and half, but it is not very scientific. Jack
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02-08-2019, 06:32 PM | #34 |
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02-09-2019, 10:10 PM | #35 | |
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02-09-2019, 10:40 PM | #36 |
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Do not know why, but am usually drawn to the "imperfect" A's. Guess I like seeing the bumps/bruises, imperfect paint, etc. and wonder how they got that way. And also marvel at how 90 year old, rusty, leaky parts are still somewhat functional.
I like the restored ones too, but not trained to notice the intricacies of what is a high point restoration, or notice different methods used to restore or make them look new. They are still beautiful though. |
02-10-2019, 12:57 AM | #37 | |
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Properly adjusted mechanical brakes will slide all four wheels. Properly adjusted hydraulic brakes will slide all four wheels. Seems to be just a matter of personal preference! I will add that a hydraulic conversion with a dual master cylinder that is not properly set up will lose all its brakes with just a small leak in either front OR rear. |
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02-11-2019, 04:10 AM | #38 | |
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02-11-2019, 11:52 AM | #39 | |
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I did mean a dual master cylinder. The problem is that total pedal travel has to be the same as original or the pedal will hit the floor before the brakes are applied in case of a leak. If you've ever blown a hose, you noticed that the pedal went to about an inch off the floor before you had any brakes! That is normal. If a dual master is mounted in an early car and has less pedal travel than OEM or pedal ratio is different, the pedal will likely hit the floor before you have any brakes! |
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02-12-2019, 06:23 PM | #40 |
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Enclosed is a pic of my '31 deluxe roadster: Virginia. From what I know of her history. She was "refurbished" in the early 50's. A "B" block was added,
also paint, top/side curtains and maybe the interior. On the driver's side door post is an oil change sticker from 1957, showing about 90,000 some miles. The odometer still works and now shows around 110,000. I've completely rebuild the brakes and done some other needed mechanics. To keep the car save to drive. Unfortunately, the interior was completely shot. A friend of mine redid it for me. Not authentic, but it looks right. I'm thinking of selling her. I want a nice older restored "A". One I can put a lot of miles on and not worry about losing its originality. Bob-A |
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