Wasco flathead timing tool

[Thriftmaster]

Hello All:
I have aquired a Wasco distributor timing tool in excellent condition. It will time Fords 4/6/ V8 & lincoln flathead engines, however my problem is that it came with no instructions.
Does anyone have a set of instructions that I could purchase or get a photo copy of for this item?
Thanks you in advance.

[Bruce Lancaster]

I think it is covered in the Canadian service bulletins (getting somewhat hard to find) and in the Canadian '46 Ford shop manual (still findable, also available reproduced with additional specs as something like '39-48 Ford Shop Manual).
Ford Canada used a mix of US KR Wilso Tools and Wasco equivalents that differed in design from the Wilsons. The timer does the same things as the Wilson but I think it does not fully rotate, it only covers an arc long enough to time and check one set of point events.

[Terry,OH]

I have some info. I sent you a PM.

[meric42]

I have a full instruction manual for a Wasco timing fixture.

I will see if I can find it tonight so that I can scan and post it tomorrow.

[meric42]

Finally got the manual scanned, so here it is, sorry for the delay

[Hoop]

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Meric42, thank you for posting the scan. Although very similar to the KR Wilson fixture, it is interesting to see the slightly different design and method/approach of adjustment.

Thanks for preserving and sharing.

[charles fitton]

Originally Posted by meric42

Finally got the manual scanned, so here it is, sorry for the delay

Thanks Meric42 - I needed that manual, too

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[meric42]

Originally Posted by charles fitton

Thanks Meric42 - I needed that manual, too

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You're welcome, I see by your avatar that you are a military vehicle enthusiast. I am currently in the process of restoring a Ford F-30 CMP truck and wonder if you might have any contacts for CMP parts in Canada?

Cheers,

Meric

[bobH]

I printed the Wasco manual, and at first glance, it looks like it may be useful for my Chec-Rite timing fixtures. I'll give it a try... and, thank you for the manual.
Does anyone have any knowledge on these Chec-Rite fixtures? I've done a google, long ago, and came up empty. Also shown in the pict, a simple plate with no 'movable center'. Seems to me, it could only check basic timing. Does anyone have any idea what it's intended for?
(The Chec-Rite fixtures have 'pins' for both two-bolt, and three-bolt distributors. The 'static' plate only has 'pins' for a three-bolt distributor.)

[Rudolph]

I have a timing Wasco tool the same as this I have downloaded the book for it, but I don't understand how to set the 4 degrees advance? with the tool, only the dwell.

dose this happen when you lock the wheel with the tab on the side and adjust the adjustment on the side witch moves the whole plate till the lights comes on and just goes off?

[axtion jim s]

I have a Wasco x12127-d timing tool with one wire attached to the lamp lead, instructions state the this lead is to be attached to the condenser, so where is the power supply, what is missing, there is three threaded holes in the under side on the lamp side, what is supposed to be there. Thanks Jim

[meric42]

Hi Jim, There was originally a 'D' size battery under the unit which lit up the lamp when the points closed. Hope this helps? Meric.

[Jason in TX]

[axtion jim s]

Thanks to both of you for the reply. Jason that is the same unit I have, would it be posable to see the under side of the one in the photo. Mine has the wire with the clip attached directly to the bottom of the bulb. How dose the D battery make the connection with out an extra wire.

[meric42]

One end of the battery should be connected to the center terminal of the lamp and the other end of the battery connected to the clip lead so that when it is clipped to the points terminal of the distributor the light will come on as the points close and go out when they open. This enables you to set the dwell angle very accurately. I hope this helps? Meric42.

[FlatheadTed]

If you want to use your Machine with a independent light system here's how you do it one to ground the other to the points ,Ted

[FlatheadTed]

More pictures

[axtion jim s]

Thanks for the info as I suspected we are missing two leads from a external battery, and the points become the switch, bingo. cheers Jim

[6lucky13]

bobH (post #9)…attached are the instructions for the Chek-Rite timing fixture. You seem to be missing the light which contains a battery and connects to the base. The setup shown by FlatheadTed would work. Unfortunately, I haven’t used the device yet to set a distributor and test it on an engine.

[Tim Ayers]

Originally Posted by bobH

I printed the Wasco manual, and at first glance, it looks like it may be useful for my Chec-Rite timing fixtures. I'll give it a try... and, thank you for the manual.
Does anyone have any knowledge on these Chec-Rite fixtures? I've done a google, long ago, and came up empty. Also shown in the pict, a simple plate with no 'movable center'. Seems to me, it could only check basic timing. Does anyone have any idea what it's intended for?
(The Chec-Rite fixtures have 'pins' for both two-bolt, and three-bolt distributors. The 'static' plate only has 'pins' for a three-bolt distributor.)

Hey Bob H:

Do those Check-Rite fixtures go with the base? If so, I guess I'm missing those for all I have is the base.

Thanks,

Tim

[Jason in TX]

I saw this one at Chickasha and thought it was cool that it looked identical to a Wasco. It was market Servex (not Cervix). Servex was for the Australian market while the Wasco was for the Canadian market.

Next to it was an early KEM

[Phil Wilson]

In 2015 I received a 1948 Monarch 4-door Sedan to keep company with my 1928 Model 'A' Ford Tudor. During my trips through various flea markets, I acquired the timing jig, along with a photocopy of the Bulletin No. B-54, (Jan 31, 1944) directions.

I've included a picture, of the bottom interior section that holds the D-battery. The wires were dry, with cracked insulation wires. Otherwise it needed a cleanup and a new coat of paint. I'll use an old 1928 wiring harness to rewire that unit and find new clamps as well.

What I want to know is what is the rubber "boot" (right side lever) used for?

[Mart]

^^ can I make a guess as to the purpose of the rubber booted pin?

I'd say it's an insulated post you can clip your flying lead to, while fitting the distributor. Once fitted you can transfer the clip to the terminal on the distributor. this keeps the lead tidy and will not light the light accidentally when not required.

I have a similar lug on a Churchill timing jig.

Mart.

[meric42]

To me it looks like somebody has put a rubber distributor HT cap in the hole of the sliding lock lever, I don't believe it is a factory part as it is not shown in any of the drawings. JMHO

[28Ca8149]

I need a light bulb for my Wasco It screws in with threads .Is it a flash light bulb that has threads .and where would I get one?

[meric42]

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Originally Posted by 28Ca8149

I need a light bulb for my Wasco It screws in with threads .Is it a flash light bulb that has threads .and where would I get one?

It is just a MES (Miniature Edison Screw) bulb of around 1.5 volts as used in some flashlights but you might have to hunt to get one with such a low voltage. Most flashlights have a minimum of 2 battery's in them so that would equate to a 3 volt bulb which would still work but not glow as bright. I modified my fixture with an external power source so now use a 6 volt bulb.

[28Ca8149]

Thanks .I was showing the guys at the car club .Thy never saw one .One guy said he can set the point without one I would like to see him do that

[jimTN]

The tool according to the instructions sets the timing, not point gap. I have wondered about that because its possible to set the timing by moving the exterior screw to when the engine runs best.

[Hoop]

"One guy said he can set the point without one I would like to see him do that"

"The tool according to the instructions sets the timing, not point gap. I have wondered about that"

The best advice I can offer is to do some study on how the distributor functions. If you understand what it does and how it does it, you will understand how these different gadgets work.

The early distributors are very simple BUT scare the crap out of a lot of folks.

If you read the Wasco instructions in post #5, they mention 6 1/4 degrees in one step ... then say total dwell is OK if between 34 and 38. Who wrote that?

As part of study lesson #1, find out the significance of the total dwell spec of 36 degrees. Why that number? If you understand what dwell is and why 36 was selected, it'll help you in adjusting your distributor. If "the tool" sets the timing, but not the point gap ... what does that suggest?

(There is a difference between setting the timing/dwell and doing a complete 'test" of the distributor's function ... as with a Sun Distributor TESTER.)