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Old 04-05-2020, 10:14 AM   #1
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Are the original helmet coils not dependable? Or should it be automatic to get it updated to new electronics even when good?
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Old 04-05-2020, 10:57 AM   #2
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Are the original helmet coils not dependable? Or should it be automatic to get it updated to new electronics even when good?
For the cost of rebuilding, there's little question as to the prudent route to take.
George Haney would be my first choice for this service. He's done perhaps a dozen for me and each has been wonderful.
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Are the original helmet coils not dependable? Or should it be automatic to get it updated to new electronics even when good?
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This is starting to sound awful familiar.
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This is starting to sound awful familiar.
Exactly as I thought!
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Groundhog Day... again.
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Old 04-05-2020, 01:47 PM   #7
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For the cost of rebuilding, there's little question as to the prudent route to take.
George Haney would be my first choice for this service. He's done perhaps a dozen for me and each has been wonderful.
Have you ever had an original coil go bad?
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Have you ever had an original coil go bad?

The only time (times) I was ever stranded was due to a "original coil" failure. This in my '34 and my '37....
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Have you ever had an original coil go bad?

Philip, we have ALL had original coils go bad. We used to carry cardboard boxes with extra used coils to change out with when stranded. This usually worked very well, as the cold coil from the box would always fire up until it got hot enough to short out like the ones we removed.
These days, we know to send the failed original coils to Skip Haney, who promptly returns them rebuilt, ready for another 70 years of service.
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Old 04-05-2020, 02:58 PM   #10
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Thanks guys, I will get it off to him right away. Normally I believe in "If it ain't broke, don't fix it. I guess this is an exception. "

I hope this isn't the Mr. Haney from Green Acres for those of you that are old enough to remember him.

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Philip, we have ALL had original coils go bad. We used to carry cardboard boxes with extra used coils to change out with when stranded. This usually worked very well, as the cold coil from the box would always fire up until it got hot enough to short out like the ones we removed.
These days, we know to send the failed original coils to Skip Haney, who promptly returns them rebuilt, ready for another 70 years of service.
Truer words never spoken...
I recall clearly driving a fresh '40 convertible to the Indianapolis Meet in '92(?) About every fifty miles, the car would start stuttering. Pull over and swap the coil and go another fifty or so.
Kept swapping the two coils I had all the way there and back. About 700+ miles round trip.
Yeah, I had some learnin' to do.
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Have you ever had an original coil go bad?
I can tell you that I have definitely had several '33-early '36 coils go bad on my cars, and the guys in our group who also own the same year early Ford's, and travel together, have also had issues with the original coils. The problem typically occures most often during heated conditions that expand internal coil windings, causing turn to turn wire shorting, and also primary to secondary coil wire shorting. When the coil internals cool, the shorting may temporarily stop/heal, only to occur again later during heated conditions.
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Have you ever had an original coil go bad?
Have you ever had one that was good on a 100 day??? G.M.
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This is starting to sound awful familiar.
Please explain??? You lost me. G.M.
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This is starting to sound awful familiar.

Do you mean like Skip is (as always) quiet as a mouse and just makes more GOOD coils.....but stand-by, 'cuz we're about to get the Florida pitch anyway? DD
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Do you mean like Skip is (as always) quiet as a mouse and just makes more GOOD coils.....but stand-by, 'cuz we're about to get the Florida pitch anyway? DD
So what's your problem with the Florida pitch, It's the truth??
And Skips coils got more people being able to feel comfortable
driving their old Ford. G.M.
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Is someone else rebuilding coils and want to add?


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Do you mean like Skip is (as always) quiet as a mouse and just makes more GOOD coils.....but stand-by, 'cuz we're about to get the Florida pitch anyway? DD



I wonder if Skip is a figment of George's imagination?



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Alan I know you only from your time here, respect your anonymity. More on the hamb also. But yes, some things are obvious. Don't mean it's wrong.


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Do you mean like Skip is (as always) quiet as a mouse and just makes more GOOD coils.....but stand-by, 'cuz we're about to get the Florida pitch anyway? DD
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So what's your problem with the Florida pitch, It's the truth??
And Skips coils got more people being able to feel comfortable
driving their old Ford. G.M.

George...You are so totally predictable! Take a deep breath and smell the beautiful springtime Florida flowers. Then, go back and CAREFULLY re-read what I said. My post showed nothing but "high praise" for Skip as well as the duly noted and hi-lighted "GOOD" coils that he has forever, and quietly turned-out. That's the entire, key element to my statement.....Skip has very quietly and humbly earned THE reputation of turning-out the ONE & ONLY, time-tested, dependable and fully-guaranteed old Ford coil available ANYWHERE on the planet......period! He's virtually a legend in his own time in the old Ford flathead V8 world. One of the neatest aspects of all of this is that Skip has built this reputation over a long time period by continually turning-out a bullet proof, first class product......NOT by running his mouth or tooting his own horn every time someone mentions a flathead coil. It's just not necessary when so many of his loyal customers are so pleased with his product that THEY do his (extensive) advertising for him. The quality of Skip's product and service is so-truly unique in this world today. His reputation is cast in stone. Yet predictably, and in spite of Skip's solid and unprecedented niche in the old Ford coil rebuilding business, we all wait with eyes rolling, for G.M. to again jump up on the stump and begin the requisite pounding of the chest while once again touting and defending the laurels of Skip's coils. As long as most of us old-geezer Ford guys keep breathing fresh air, and with more and more flathead V8s being resurrected every day, Skip's business will continue to thrive on a well-earned word of mouth reputation, and without the chest-pounding. It just couldn't be any better! DD
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