The Ford Barn

Seabees · 05-31-2020, 04:13 PM

Sorry Jim, I don't like working in below freezing weather as much as I did 48 years ago on Adak! I'll stay in the shop during the winter! Hope you're doing well! Great seeing you last summer! And Brent, thanks for the pix. How high is your ceiling? That's another small issue. Mine is about 11'2". I could raise the ceiling above it, but that would take some doing. It would probably work "ok", but a couple more feet higher would be nice.

old31 · 06-03-2020, 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by BRENT in 10-uh-C

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Where is all of this coming from? From my experience with 2 post lifts used on Model-As (-which is almost daily for the past 20 years), I have never observed any adverse situation regarding the frame. The only issue that you can encounter is the brake rods to the front will bend when the front axle is dangling however as soon as the vehicle is returned to the ground, the brake rod returns to its normal position. It definitely is not because the frame will sag or bend!!

As kinda stated above, the main reason for using a 2-post lift is for convenience of servicing components underneath the vehicle. It is not meant for long-term storage.

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Brent, on photo #1 it looks like your bringing the tank out to garbage. I will for free take that off your hands.

johnneilson · 06-03-2020, 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by old31

Brent, on photo #1 it looks like your bringing the tank out to garbage. I will for free take that off your hands.

Hell,

I'll pay the shipping for it!!

BRENT in 10-uh-C · 06-03-2020, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by old31

Brent, on photo #1 it looks like your bringing the tank out to garbage. I will for free take that off your hands.

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Originally Posted by johnneilson

Hell,

I'll pay the shipping for it!!

Funny. That tank has already been restored, re-installed, and out of here!

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Seabees · 06-06-2020, 10:56 AM

Thanks for all of the replys! Jim Brierley, you need to come up for a visit again, in late January! I'll show you some "Mist"!

I am thinking of the Bendpak XPR-9S, due to my ceiling height, which is only about 10'11". This lift is only 9'5"ish, so it would be fine for my shop.

Brett, where do you lift from on the frame? That's where I would lift from, even though my fellow CM says otherwise. I don't see an issue with it. I might be inclined to make an adapter to cradle the frame rather than having it set on the pads, due to the narrow frame.

Thanks guys, I may be over analyzing this, but, if I'm going to spend 3-4K, I want it right.

Seabees · 06-06-2020, 10:59 AM

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I just noted I got a promotion! I am now a "Member", not a Junior Member!

katy · 06-06-2020, 11:05 AM

Pay raise w/that?

old31 · 06-06-2020, 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Seabees

I just noted I got a promotion! I am now a "Member", not a Junior Member!

That makes you a specialist. And all specialists deserve a lift.

Seabees · 06-06-2020, 09:57 PM

OK then! It's settled! Since I got a promotion, I'll be getting a lift. But a pay raise? Mmmmm, doubtful!

ronn · 06-07-2020, 05:22 AM

mentioning carports over the lift.............

have had 3 installed here by carolina carports- east coast and couldnt be happier!

18 x 21 they install with 10' sidewalls at 1100. each
couldnt buy the materials for that.

johnneilson · 06-07-2020, 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Seabees

Thanks for all of the replys! Jim Brierley, you need to come up for a visit again, in late January! I'll show you some "Mist"!

I am thinking of the Bendpak XPR-9S, due to my ceiling height, which is only about 10'11". This lift is only 9'5"ish, so it would be fine for my shop.

Brett, where do you lift from on the frame? That's where I would lift from, even though my fellow CM says otherwise. I don't see an issue with it. I might be inclined to make an adapter to cradle the frame rather than having it set on the pads, due to the narrow frame.

Thanks guys, I may be over analyzing this, but, if I'm going to spend 3-4K, I want it right.

Just be careful of low ceilings, you may not be able to get the car up high enough to work under it.

I have had a couple 2 pole lifts, current one is outside. You just have to plan your project and have lighting available.

John

wwirz · 06-09-2020, 05:09 AM

I have an EAGLE lift. This means you drive the car up on ramps and you lift the car up under the 4 wheels. It was a pleasure to do all oil changes and lubes with the car at shoulder height.
When it came time to pack the bearings, i lifted the car up bit, stuck a jack stand under the wheel I wanted to inspect. Raised the car up when completed, pulled the jack out, lowered the car and went on to the next wheel.
A rear axle would be difficult anyway, but should I need to do it when I am 75, I will have grandchildren to help me.
However, the EAGLE lift is a permanent set up, But at the same time for winter storage, you can raise the A up high enough that you can tore things under the car.
I feel safer with an EAGLE type ramp lift. It is 100x better than laying on your back with a creeper. This is how I did the work on my 51 plymouth when I was 16 years old. Not 16 anymore

Licensed to kill · 06-09-2020, 08:15 AM

Ideally, a guy should have one of each (2 and 4 post) if you do a lot of work on cars. they both have their pro's and con's. I went through this same "back and forth" before buying my lift. I set put 4 5 gallon pails where the legs would be with a 4 post and found that it just took up too much room in my shop even though I would have had the option of putting it on wheels and pushing it to the side when not in use. I opted for an asymmetrical, low profile 2 post (bend-pak). The advantage for me of the asymmetrical is that I can mount the post further forward in the shop, closer to the end wall and the reason for the low profile is that I have a few VERY low cars (see avatar). There is also the option of setting the post "narrow" or "wide" and I went with wide because I also put my dually 1 tons on it. HOWEVER, I discovered afterwards that in the wide stance with the asymmetrical configuration (which has short arms in the front and long arms in the back) that the front arms JUST reach the narrow frame of the model A meaning that the car has to be PERFECTLY centered between the posts which can be a PITA. The other thing with mine is, being "low profile" means that the arms, when down all the way are VERY close to the floor and if your floor is not perfectly flat, they drag on any high spots and can be difficult to swing. The other reason I went with the 2 post is that I wanted to be able to use it to lift off car/truck bodies. If you don;t intend to use it for that and you have the room, a 4 post might be a better option. Certainly easier to just drive on rather than setting the arms on a 2 post.

gvgehrig · 06-10-2020, 04:43 PM

I got an “auto lift” from Best Buy auto about two weeks ago. Did a great deal of research. I had planned on installing it myself, but happened to meet an installer when picking it up. Made me an offer I couldn’t refuse, so I had him install it. Turned out to be a good decision. During installation, I asked him if the lift was a good choice. To my pleasant surprise, he said it was the lift he would choose. He said about six years ago, they brought up their quality. As I said, I’ve only had mine two weeks, but I really do like it. A friend of mine has the same brand, but much older; he likes his. If money is no object, I have a friend who loves his backyard buddy. Good luck. Now that I have one, I don’t know how I lived without it.

05-31-2020, 04:13 PM	#21
Seabees Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2017 Location: Eastern Oregon Posts: 204	Re: 2 post car lift Sorry Jim, I don't like working in below freezing weather as much as I did 48 years ago on Adak! I'll stay in the shop during the winter! Hope you're doing well! Great seeing you last summer! And Brent, thanks for the pix. How high is your ceiling? That's another small issue. Mine is about 11'2". I could raise the ceiling above it, but that would take some doing. It would probably work "ok", but a couple more feet higher would be nice.

06-06-2020, 10:56 AM	#25
Seabees Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2017 Location: Eastern Oregon Posts: 204	Re: 2 post car lift Thanks for all of the replys! Jim Brierley, you need to come up for a visit again, in late January! I'll show you some "Mist"! I am thinking of the Bendpak XPR-9S, due to my ceiling height, which is only about 10'11". This lift is only 9'5"ish, so it would be fine for my shop. Brett, where do you lift from on the frame? That's where I would lift from, even though my fellow CM says otherwise. I don't see an issue with it. I might be inclined to make an adapter to cradle the frame rather than having it set on the pads, due to the narrow frame. Thanks guys, I may be over analyzing this, but, if I'm going to spend 3-4K, I want it right.

06-06-2020, 10:59 AM	#26
Seabees Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2017 Location: Eastern Oregon Posts: 204	Re: 2 post car lift Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) I just noted I got a promotion! I am now a "Member", not a Junior Member!

06-06-2020, 11:05 AM	#27
katy Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Red Deer, Alberta Posts: 5,042	Re: 2 post car lift Pay raise w/that? __________________ If you don't hear a rumor by 10 AM, start one!. Got my education out behind the barn!

06-06-2020, 09:57 PM	#29
Seabees Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2017 Location: Eastern Oregon Posts: 204	Re: 2 post car lift OK then! It's settled! Since I got a promotion, I'll be getting a lift. But a pay raise? Mmmmm, doubtful!

06-07-2020, 05:22 AM	#30
ronn Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: NNNNNNNNJJJJJJJJJJ Posts: 6,782	Re: 2 post car lift mentioning carports over the lift............. have had 3 installed here by carolina carports- east coast and couldnt be happier! 18 x 21 they install with 10' sidewalls at 1100. each couldnt buy the materials for that.

06-09-2020, 05:09 AM	#32
wwirz Senior Member Join Date: May 2020 Location: Corning NY Posts: 244	Re: 2 post car lift I have an EAGLE lift. This means you drive the car up on ramps and you lift the car up under the 4 wheels. It was a pleasure to do all oil changes and lubes with the car at shoulder height. When it came time to pack the bearings, i lifted the car up bit, stuck a jack stand under the wheel I wanted to inspect. Raised the car up when completed, pulled the jack out, lowered the car and went on to the next wheel. A rear axle would be difficult anyway, but should I need to do it when I am 75, I will have grandchildren to help me. However, the EAGLE lift is a permanent set up, But at the same time for winter storage, you can raise the A up high enough that you can tore things under the car. I feel safer with an EAGLE type ramp lift. It is 100x better than laying on your back with a creeper. This is how I did the work on my 51 plymouth when I was 16 years old. Not 16 anymore

06-09-2020, 08:15 AM	#33
Licensed to kill Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: Alberta Posts: 930	Re: 2 post car lift Ideally, a guy should have one of each (2 and 4 post) if you do a lot of work on cars. they both have their pro's and con's. I went through this same "back and forth" before buying my lift. I set put 4 5 gallon pails where the legs would be with a 4 post and found that it just took up too much room in my shop even though I would have had the option of putting it on wheels and pushing it to the side when not in use. I opted for an asymmetrical, low profile 2 post (bend-pak). The advantage for me of the asymmetrical is that I can mount the post further forward in the shop, closer to the end wall and the reason for the low profile is that I have a few VERY low cars (see avatar). There is also the option of setting the post "narrow" or "wide" and I went with wide because I also put my dually 1 tons on it. HOWEVER, I discovered afterwards that in the wide stance with the asymmetrical configuration (which has short arms in the front and long arms in the back) that the front arms JUST reach the narrow frame of the model A meaning that the car has to be PERFECTLY centered between the posts which can be a PITA. The other thing with mine is, being "low profile" means that the arms, when down all the way are VERY close to the floor and if your floor is not perfectly flat, they drag on any high spots and can be difficult to swing. The other reason I went with the 2 post is that I wanted to be able to use it to lift off car/truck bodies. If you don;t intend to use it for that and you have the room, a 4 post might be a better option. Certainly easier to just drive on rather than setting the arms on a 2 post.

06-10-2020, 04:43 PM	#34
gvgehrig Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Posts: 23	Re: 2 post car lift I got an “auto lift” from Best Buy auto about two weeks ago. Did a great deal of research. I had planned on installing it myself, but happened to meet an installer when picking it up. Made me an offer I couldn’t refuse, so I had him install it. Turned out to be a good decision. During installation, I asked him if the lift was a good choice. To my pleasant surprise, he said it was the lift he would choose. He said about six years ago, they brought up their quality. As I said, I’ve only had mine two weeks, but I really do like it. A friend of mine has the same brand, but much older; he likes his. If money is no object, I have a friend who loves his backyard buddy. Good luck. Now that I have one, I don’t know how I lived without it.