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Old 01-13-2018, 02:50 PM   #21
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It may be on the center main. some use to do that years ago.
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Can't get anything past your, eh ! Always thinking which is good for a young man .

Haven't gotten to the center custom cap yet and think that there is no reason now, to disturb it as all looks excellent. The old man put center bearing thrusts in. He did very nice work, IMO.

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They now make/sell those asbestos/copper washers/fillers that go between the nuts and block, to prevent oil leaks. Have any of you used these(one time use) and do you recommend their usage ? Or is that a waste of $/time
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Hey George,
Can't get anything past your, eh ! Always thinking which is good for a young man .

Haven't gotten to the center custom cap yet and think that there is no reason now, to disturb it as all looks excellent. The old man put center bearing thrusts in. He did very nice work, IMO.

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They now make/sell those asbestos/copper washers/fillers that go between the nuts and block, to prevent oil leaks. Have any of you used these(one time use) and do you recommend their usage ? Or is that a waste of $/time
No I never have used them. I always put a chamfer on the bolt hole in the block, then put a dab of rtv there to keep the oil from creeping up the bolt.
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Rick,

those main bearing inserts in rear sure look like 1055G inserts from Datsun.

pull the center and front mains, more than likely same inserts but narrowed up

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Old 01-13-2018, 09:20 PM   #24
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I run a hard washer and rtv,blue loctite and a grade 8 nut instead of the cotter and castellated nut on the mains..

Id take detailed picture and get that engine running before I off it..if it were mine..
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Old 01-14-2018, 01:10 AM   #25
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I run a hard washer and rtv,blue loctite and a grade 8 nut instead of the cotter and castellated nut on the mains..

Id take detailed picture and get that engine running before I off it..if it were mine..
The more I mess with this B, the more appealing it becomes to hear it run. Wish I knew about the cam, but that would entail taking it out and mailing it to Jim B. Maybe it is better grind than a B ? Someone, removed the fuel pump lobe, so work was done on it. I'm sure that Jim could work some magic on this one. I've got everything to make it run....except a decent oil pump.
What do you figure is the minimal crank movement for a B...front to back ?
Is there a 'worry' if none is perceived ??
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Rick,

those main bearing inserts in rear sure look like 1055G inserts from Datsun.

pull the center and front mains, more than likely same inserts but narrowed up

J
Hey John,
Yeah, I'll most likely follow that advice.
Is there a 'chart' of some kind to convert a bearing shell number to different makes(numbers) with SAME dimensions ?
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Rick,

I have never seen one for the numbers stamped on the shells.
Once you know the number it is easy to cross mfgrs.

more than likely the housing bore in the block is 2.146, if so it is the datsun
if it is larger, 2.162 it is a perkins/buda diesel.

there are a number of different ones as the application is not specific.

I also think there is a triumph application that gets used often.

In looking at the pics again, the radius fillet on the crank is too small, my opinion for anything more than a touring motor.

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^^^ Im with John on the radius,the shear factor is too high^^^^
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Rick,

I have never seen one for the numbers stamped on the shells.
Once you know the number it is easy to cross mfgrs.

more than likely the housing bore in the block is 2.146, if so it is the datsun
if it is larger, 2.162 it is a perkins/buda diesel.

there are a number of different ones as the application is not specific.

I also think there is a triumph application that gets used often.

In looking at the pics again, the radius fillet on the crank is too small, my opinion for anything more than a touring motor.

J
Thanks, I got nothing against 'touring', as long as someone else is doing it ! For various reasons, various parts of me will not tolerate sitting for hours on end, especially in a Model A.
That does it, off with its' head, or maybe on with its head !

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Nah,just dont do any clutch dumps at half throttle,Imagine that flywheel can raise hell with the grey iron bellhousing...be like somebody set off a claymore at your crotch..
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Hard times,

To answer your original question, call Max Hermans at H&H and ask him. As indicated by the MAX in yellow letters on the crank counter weight H&H is the builder of the engine. That plus the fact the thrust is on the center main.

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Hard times,

To answer your original question, call Max Hermans at H&H and ask him. As indicated by the MAX in yellow letters on the crank counter weight H&H is the builder of the engine. That plus the fact the thrust is on the center main.

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Hard times,

To answer your original question, call Max Hermans at H&H and ask him. As indicated by the MAX in yellow letters on the crank counter weight H&H is the builder of the engine. That plus the fact the thrust is on the center main.

Wm J.
Hey Wm,
Well, that is interesting. Enough so, that I might call him. I did not examine that yellow paint on crank closely enough to come up with that name. Has that been a standard marking system for them, if you know

If true, that might explain the skinny radius. On the other hand, he would know about the bearing shells used, if his work, and that would be good...thanks. But, he/they may know nothing, but sold the old man the crank. Not too long ago, I contacted him about a marked cam, that I got(have now) from a guy who bought it from them. I called up the business and he told me that he hasn't made a cam like that for years. True, the guy who I got it from, bought it in 80s. Maybe just let that sleeping dog stay sleeping,eh !

Ya know that life IS strange. Yesterday, I visited a guy who volunteered to test a part for me. While there, two other guys showed. We talked A/B engine, cars, etc... One of these two guys was helping us pressure check parts....and stated that he has taken his newly rebuilt B engine back there two/three times for rework, bummer. He gave up on that B and is now looking for another for his roadster. What a coincidence, hm.

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