The Ford Barn

rotorwrench · 02-28-2018, 06:09 PM

I've seen two styles (1st & 2nd below)but I haven't seen that one. The 1952 chassis part book lists 3 different types.

1st 8CM-9600-A1 description: Air cleaner and silencer assy (oil bath)-without elbow-special equipment- repl by (1) 8CM-9600-A5 and (1) 1CM-9663-B brace

2nd 8CM-9600-A5 description: Carburetor air cleaner assy (oil bath) -with elbow

3rd 8CM-9600-B3 description: Air cleaner & silencer assy (dry type)-replaced by 8CM-9600-A1

The last one is only listed for 1949. I wonder if the one previously pictured in post #18 is the dry type as described in the 3rd item? You don't see that one much.

Mike51Merc · 02-28-2018, 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by scicala

The Stromberg 48 doesn't flow near as much air as the Mercury Holley 885. Also the 885 has a sideways air inlet, but is a downdraft carburetor. Not a side draft.

Sal

Hence why I put "Sidedraft" in quotes. I know it's not a sidedraft, but lots of guys call it that.

51 MERC-CT · 02-28-2018, 09:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rotorwrench

I wonder if the one previously pictured in post #18 is the dry type as described in the 3rd item? You don't see that one much.

The one pictured in post #18 is an oil bath filter and is, because of the carburetor, '49-'51 specific. These would seem to conform to the 8CM 9600 A1
This is another one I have in the process of opening up the intake port.

Pilot31135 · 03-01-2018, 12:19 PM

Well lots of good discussion. I think I’ll hang on to my 885. It’s all ready rebuilt who knows maybe set up a manifold with a pair of them on it!

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tubman · 03-01-2018, 05:47 PM

I have seen two of those manifolds on eBay. One was a $475 "Buy it Now" and it sat for a couple of months but finally sold. The other was an auction that IIRC, went for a little less than that. I think they would be a bit much for anything but a big inch engine with a bunch of mods.

markdtn · 03-02-2018, 10:14 AM

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I considered one for my V8 tractor to use a more "tractorish" air cleaner system, but the 94s are a lot more common and I already had the intake for it so I didn't. Still think it would have blended in better with the look I was going for.

BUBBAS IGNITION · 03-02-2018, 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Charlie ny

Guys,
Edmunds made an 8ba 2x2 intake for these carbs and could supply beautiful cast
air cleaners that just fit on 2x2's. Edmunds also made an intake and air cleaners for
early Olds (2x2)....very beautiful. These babies are loud but funky.
The pita is wear between the throttle shaft and base....3 out 5 need oversize
shafts to tighten things up.....making these is no big deal but it takes some time.
Charlie ny

Charlie , What the cfm on these carbs??? I have one of the Edmunds intakes ...

rotorwrench · 03-02-2018, 12:30 PM

I'm not sure they rated them in CFM back on those days. The venturi size was still the most common way to rate them. The Lincoln EL types were made for the 337 engines and had the 1 5/32" venturis. The ones for the big trucks were likely the same size as Lincoln but they had a governor. The Mercury CM types had 1 1/32" venturis so they would've had less flow.

CFM is likely from 170 to 205 on the two sizes.

Pilot31135 · 03-04-2018, 02:15 PM

Here is my 885fg off of my 337 Flathead. It was a truck motor, so it had a governor. I changed the dizzy to a lincoln car dizzy so I am going to change the 885 base to a non-governed one. Therefore the carb is incomplete, but is rebuilt and powder coated to be “different”!

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bssmnbll · 08-13-2020, 12:37 PM

I had Charlie NY rebuild my 885 a couple of years ago, and this year it's accelerator pump or something in that area is not right, so I am going into it to see if I can find the problem. I ordered a kit from one "Carb Doctor" a week or so ago, have not seen it yet , but if it is complete, will go into it.

JT FORD · 08-13-2020, 01:48 PM

Back in l954 I put a Merc intake and the Merc carb on my '49 Ford. It was a side draft carb but I don't remember the model number. But I do remember something about it.
It didn't help the speed and I change back to the stock setup after a few trial runs.

Sorry for the double repay!

JT FORD · 08-13-2020, 01:50 PM

I tried this Merc intake and carb in '54 on my '49 Ford car. It didn't increase the speed and I soon removed it and went back to stock setup.

02-28-2018, 06:09 PM	#21
rotorwrench Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: San Antonio, Texas Posts: 16,431	Re: Holley 885 carb vs Holley 94 I've seen two styles (1st & 2nd below)but I haven't seen that one. The 1952 chassis part book lists 3 different types. 1st 8CM-9600-A1 description: Air cleaner and silencer assy (oil bath)-without elbow-special equipment- repl by (1) 8CM-9600-A5 and (1) 1CM-9663-B brace 2nd 8CM-9600-A5 description: Carburetor air cleaner assy (oil bath) -with elbow 3rd 8CM-9600-B3 description: Air cleaner & silencer assy (dry type)-replaced by 8CM-9600-A1 The last one is only listed for 1949. I wonder if the one previously pictured in post #18 is the dry type as described in the 3rd item? You don't see that one much.

03-01-2018, 12:19 PM	#24
Pilot31135 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2017 Location: Maine Posts: 109	Re: Holley 885 carb vs Holley 94 Well lots of good discussion. I think I’ll hang on to my 885. It’s all ready rebuilt who knows maybe set up a manifold with a pair of them on it! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

03-01-2018, 05:47 PM	#25
tubman Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Minnesota, Florida Keys Posts: 10,316	Re: Holley 885 carb vs Holley 94 I have seen two of those manifolds on eBay. One was a $475 "Buy it Now" and it sat for a couple of months but finally sold. The other was an auction that IIRC, went for a little less than that. I think they would be a bit much for anything but a big inch engine with a bunch of mods. Last edited by tubman; 03-02-2018 at 12:36 PM.

03-02-2018, 10:14 AM	#26
markdtn Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: Chattanooga, TN Posts: 139	Re: Holley 885 carb vs Holley 94 Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) I considered one for my V8 tractor to use a more "tractorish" air cleaner system, but the 94s are a lot more common and I already had the intake for it so I didn't. Still think it would have blended in better with the look I was going for.

03-02-2018, 12:30 PM	#28
rotorwrench Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: San Antonio, Texas Posts: 16,431	Re: Holley 885 carb vs Holley 94 I'm not sure they rated them in CFM back on those days. The venturi size was still the most common way to rate them. The Lincoln EL types were made for the 337 engines and had the 1 5/32" venturis. The ones for the big trucks were likely the same size as Lincoln but they had a governor. The Mercury CM types had 1 1/32" venturis so they would've had less flow. CFM is likely from 170 to 205 on the two sizes. Last edited by rotorwrench; 03-02-2018 at 12:40 PM.

03-04-2018, 02:15 PM	#29
Pilot31135 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2017 Location: Maine Posts: 109	Re: Holley 885 carb vs Holley 94 Here is my 885fg off of my 337 Flathead. It was a truck motor, so it had a governor. I changed the dizzy to a lincoln car dizzy so I am going to change the 885 base to a non-governed one. Therefore the carb is incomplete, but is rebuilt and powder coated to be “different”! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

08-13-2020, 12:37 PM	#30
bssmnbll Member Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: Annapolis, MD Posts: 50	Re: Holley 885 carb vs Holley 94 I had Charlie NY rebuild my 885 a couple of years ago, and this year it's accelerator pump or something in that area is not right, so I am going into it to see if I can find the problem. I ordered a kit from one "Carb Doctor" a week or so ago, have not seen it yet , but if it is complete, will go into it.

08-13-2020, 01:48 PM	#31
JT FORD Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: N.W. Iowa Posts: 306	Re: Holley 885 carb vs Holley 94 Back in l954 I put a Merc intake and the Merc carb on my '49 Ford. It was a side draft carb but I don't remember the model number. But I do remember something about it. It didn't help the speed and I change back to the stock setup after a few trial runs. Sorry for the double repay! Last edited by JT FORD; 08-13-2020 at 01:53 PM.

08-13-2020, 01:50 PM	#32
JT FORD Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: N.W. Iowa Posts: 306	Re: Holley 885 carb vs Holley 94 I tried this Merc intake and carb in '54 on my '49 Ford car. It didn't increase the speed and I soon removed it and went back to stock setup.