The Ford Barn

Ken/Alabama · 08-24-2019, 05:14 PM

Anyone had any experience with the under the deck lid panel for 40 coupes made by United Pacific?

swoopNZ · 08-24-2019, 09:38 PM

Their floors are a good fit so the panel should be also.
I've had good experiences with Drakes and Carpenters under trunk panels - never tried EMS.

Ken/Alabama · 08-25-2019, 06:27 AM

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Originally Posted by swoopNZ

Their floors are a good fit so the panel should be also.
I've had good experiences with Drakes and Carpenters under trunk panels - never tried EMS.

Haven’t heard much good about the EMS panels. Drake and Carpenter is out of stock on them.

Krylon32 · 08-25-2019, 10:16 AM

Everything I've bought from United Pacific to date has fit perfectly.

V8COOPMAN · 08-25-2019, 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Ken/Alabama

Haven’t heard much good about the EMS panels. Drake and Carpenter is out of stock on them.

HUGE difference in both quality and fit when comparing EMS and United Pacific stuff. DD

Automotive Stud · 08-27-2019, 01:14 PM

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Not a '40, but my friend used UP quarters and floor in his rough 32 coupe, he was very happy with the way they fit.

bluardun · 08-27-2019, 01:19 PM

Excellent. They probably provide the panel for Drake and Carpenter. I just finished using one of there panels and was extremely please with the quality, fit and price. What more can I say ?

Kube · 08-27-2019, 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by bluardun

Excellent. They probably provide the panel for Drake and Carpenter. I just finished using one of there panels and was extremely please with the quality, fit and price. What more can I say ?

What more can you say?
Website address? Phone number?

Thanks!

V8COOPMAN · 08-27-2019, 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Ken/Alabama

Anyone had any experience with the under the deck lid panel for 40 coupes made by United Pacific?

Ken...Here's the WWW catalog page for that United Pacific below-trunk panel with phone number, etc. Their web site is difficult to find. Click the link below for the panel. Their entire FORD parts catalog starts at page 1 if you click on the second link below. DD

https://upcarparts.com/under-deck-li...40-convertible

https://upcarparts.com/catalogsearch...ke=Ford&q=Ford

Ken/Alabama · 08-27-2019, 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by V8COOPMAN

Ken...Here's the WWW catalog page for that United Pacific below-trunk panel with phone number, etc. Their web site is difficult to find. Click the link below for the panel. Their entire FORD parts catalog starts at page 1 if you click on the second link below. DD

https://upcarparts.com/under-deck-li...40-convertible

https://upcarparts.com/catalogsearch...ke=Ford&q=Ford

Thank you!

TomT/Williamsburg · 08-27-2019, 06:17 PM

UP has very good stufff for 32s - don’t know why 40 sheet metal would be any different quality wise!

Kube · 08-27-2019, 07:02 PM

Thanks much guys. I'd ordered the tail pan a bit ago. I'll let ya know how it appears once it arrives.

flatmotor40 · 08-28-2019, 05:06 AM

The one I got years ago from Drake had to really mess with it to get it right

Kube · 08-28-2019, 07:34 AM

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Originally Posted by flatmotor40

The one I got years ago from Drake had to really mess with it to get it right

The panels I'd got from Drake (once he made them with the correct curves) had fit perfectly every time. Three of them as I recall - perhaps four. CRS.

Kube · 09-05-2019, 05:18 PM

Received the pan today from Pacific. It's identical the pan Drake sold, um, that is - when he had them.

Seth Swoboda · 09-06-2019, 08:14 AM

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Seth Swoboda · 09-06-2019, 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Kube

Received the pan today from Pacific. It's identical the pan Drake sold, um, that is - when he had them.

Kube, are you satisfied with the United Pacific tail pan, how it looks and fits?

uncle buck · 09-06-2019, 09:02 AM

I wouldn't be surprised if the Drake , Carpenter , and United Pacific all come from the same factory in China. My understanding is the factory contract's have been requiring larger than demand production runs is why we have seen the discontinue of production by both Drake and Carpenter on many of the replacement body panels. United Pacific is the new player in the game trying to satisfy the factory

Kube · 09-06-2019, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Seth Swoboda

Kube, are you satisfied with the United Pacific tail pan, how it looks and fits?

I believe this pan is identical to Drake's. Even the box appears the same.
I've installed three, maybe four, of Drake's pans with great results.

Vics Stuff · 09-06-2019, 11:47 AM

I would not be surprised if all the panels are from the same supplier who stepped up and had a lot made. Only makes sense.
Vic

Kube · 10-24-2019, 02:50 PM

I promised an update and here it is:
The pan from United Pacific is with little doubt the same one supplied (when available) by other vendors.
At first glance, it's a beauty. Installation is going slow as many, and I mean MANY measurements are not at all near the authentic pan. Might be okay for a lot of folks but I don't like "good enough"... I like "as authentic".
This pan will require cutting, bending, adding material in places, etc.
When I'm done, I'll challenge anyone to detect it from Henry steel.
Just thought you guys that actually care about doing things correctly would appreciate the update. Yeah, It's better than a bent up and rusted out pan but it's far from a direct replacement.

Seth Swoboda · 10-24-2019, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Kube

I promised an update and here it is:
The pan from United Pacific is with little doubt the same one supplied (when available) by other vendors.
At first glance, it's a beauty. Installation is going slow as many, and I mean MANY measurements are not at all near the authentic pan. Might be okay for a lot of folks but I don't like "good enough"... I like "as authentic".
This pan will require cutting, bending, adding material in places, etc.
When I'm done, I'll challenge anyone to detect it from Henry steel.
Just thought you guys that actually care about doing things correctly would appreciate the update. Yeah, It's better than a bent up and rusted out pan but it's far from a direct replacement.

Thanks for following up.

I located and original 1940 Ford full floor pan with rockers and no rust for my tudor project. My car needs a front floor pan. I'll be installing the Ford floor in my car with the help of an expert metal fabrication man.

I will be needing this rear pan that you have reported on. Guess we'll have some fun making it "correct".

Kube · 10-24-2019, 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Seth Swoboda

Thanks for following up.

I located and original 1940 Ford full floor pan with rockers and no rust for my tudor project. My car needs a front floor pan. I'll be installing the Ford floor in my car with the help of an expert metal fabrication man.

I will be needing this rear pan that you have reported on. Guess we'll have some fun making it "correct".

Seth, I didn't mean to discourage anyone but rather, give a heads up as to what folks are in for. I'll have this installed in a day, perhaps two. However, I will tack it in place and install the trunk lid to be certain all fits as I require.

JSeery · 10-24-2019, 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by uncle buck

I wouldn't be surprised if the Drake , Carpenter , and United Pacific all come from the same factory in China. My understanding is the factory contract's have been requiring larger than demand production runs is why we have seen the discontinue of production by both Drake and Carpenter on many of the replacement body panels. United Pacific is the new player in the game trying to satisfy the factory

I know at least some of the panels (33/34) are made in the U.S. as I know the guys that fabricate them.

TJ · 10-24-2019, 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Seth Swoboda

Thanks for following up.

I located and original 1940 Ford full floor pan with rockers and no rust for my tudor project. My car needs a front floor pan. I'll be installing the Ford floor in my car with the help of an expert metal fabrication man.

I will be needing this rear pan that you have reported on. Guess we'll have some fun making it "correct".

Seth the rear pan shown in the photos is for a coupe. if you have a tudor it uses a different rear pan.

Seth Swoboda · 10-25-2019, 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by TJ

Seth the rear pan shown in the photos is for a coupe. if you have a tudor it uses a different rear pan.

Tom, yes I realize this. I assume the rear pan for the tudor will also need the same kind of "messaging" to make it correct. Thanks for the heads up though. Mike Kubarth and Michael Driskell have been a wealth of assistance and knowledge for me over many years. I appreciate all the help from barners like yourself too.

TJ · 10-25-2019, 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Seth Swoboda

Tom, yes I realize this. I assume the rear pan for the tudor will also need the same kind of "messaging" to make it correct. Thanks for the heads up though. Mike Kubarth and Michael Driskell have been a wealth of assistance and knowledge for me over many years. I appreciate all the help from barners like yourself too.

Seth, thank you. At one point Drake made the panel for a tudor, but who knows if it's still being made or in stock. I would call just to see if he might have one.

Seth Swoboda · 10-28-2019, 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by TJ

Seth, thank you. At one point Drake made the panel for a tudor, but who knows if it's still being made or in stock. I would call just to see if he might have one.

I will do that. Thanks for the heads up. Maybe I'll include that on their "black Friday" sales order.

08-24-2019, 09:38 PM	#2
swoopNZ MEMBER EMERITUS Join Date: May 2010 Location: New Zealand Posts: 1,380	Re: 40 Ford Replacement Panel Their floors are a good fit so the panel should be also. I've had good experiences with Drakes and Carpenters under trunk panels - never tried EMS.

08-25-2019, 10:16 AM	#4
Krylon32 Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 4,484	Re: 40 Ford Replacement Panel Everything I've bought from United Pacific to date has fit perfectly.

08-27-2019, 01:14 PM	#6
Automotive Stud Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: New Jersey Posts: 832	Re: 40 Ford Replacement Panel Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) Not a '40, but my friend used UP quarters and floor in his rough 32 coupe, he was very happy with the way they fit.

08-27-2019, 01:19 PM	#7
bluardun Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Tucson, Az. Posts: 322	Re: 40 Ford Replacement Panel Excellent. They probably provide the panel for Drake and Carpenter. I just finished using one of there panels and was extremely please with the quality, fit and price. What more can I say ?

08-27-2019, 06:17 PM	#11
TomT/Williamsburg Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Williamsburg, Virginia Posts: 2,654	Re: 40 Ford Replacement Panel UP has very good stufff for 32s - don’t know why 40 sheet metal would be any different quality wise! __________________ Run to the LA Roadster Show - 2016 My Run to Bonneville - 2013 My 32 5-Window Build My Run to the LSRU

08-27-2019, 07:02 PM	#12
Kube Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Wisconsin, USA Posts: 9,006	Re: 40 Ford Replacement Panel Thanks much guys. I'd ordered the tail pan a bit ago. I'll let ya know how it appears once it arrives. __________________ "I can explain it for you. However, I can't understand it for you".

08-28-2019, 05:06 AM	#13
flatmotor40 Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Georgia Posts: 611	Re: 40 Ford Replacement Panel The one I got years ago from Drake had to really mess with it to get it right

09-05-2019, 05:18 PM	#15
Kube Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Wisconsin, USA Posts: 9,006	Re: 40 Ford Replacement Panel Received the pan today from Pacific. It's identical the pan Drake sold, um, that is - when he had them. __________________ "I can explain it for you. However, I can't understand it for you".

09-06-2019, 08:14 AM	#16
Seth Swoboda Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 3,795	Re: 40 Ford Replacement Panel delete

09-06-2019, 09:02 AM	#18
uncle buck Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Snohomish,WA Posts: 1,030	Re: 40 Ford Replacement Panel I wouldn't be surprised if the Drake , Carpenter , and United Pacific all come from the same factory in China. My understanding is the factory contract's have been requiring larger than demand production runs is why we have seen the discontinue of production by both Drake and Carpenter on many of the replacement body panels. United Pacific is the new player in the game trying to satisfy the factory

09-06-2019, 11:47 AM	#20
Vics Stuff Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Reno Nevada Posts: 391	Re: 40 Ford Replacement Panel I would not be surprised if all the panels are from the same supplier who stepped up and had a lot made. Only makes sense. Vic

10-24-2019, 02:50 PM	#21
Kube Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Wisconsin, USA Posts: 9,006	Re: 40 Ford Replacement Panel I promised an update and here it is: The pan from United Pacific is with little doubt the same one supplied (when available) by other vendors. At first glance, it's a beauty. Installation is going slow as many, and I mean MANY measurements are not at all near the authentic pan. Might be okay for a lot of folks but I don't like "good enough"... I like "as authentic". This pan will require cutting, bending, adding material in places, etc. When I'm done, I'll challenge anyone to detect it from Henry steel. Just thought you guys that actually care about doing things correctly would appreciate the update. Yeah, It's better than a bent up and rusted out pan but it's far from a direct replacement. __________________ "I can explain it for you. However, I can't understand it for you".