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Old 09-16-2018, 03:53 PM   #21
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Yeah I read that somewhere. I need to figure out who made this one.
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Old 09-16-2018, 05:19 PM   #22
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Set the gap at .030" Should be close
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Old 09-16-2018, 06:06 PM   #23
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Who's the teapot guru on here if I need to get it rebuilt?
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Old 09-16-2018, 08:36 PM   #24
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Sal"s the man for teapots. Contact scacala thru a P.M. and as a plus he"s in your neck of the woods !


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Old 09-16-2018, 10:01 PM   #25
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Who's the teapot guru on here if I need to get it rebuilt?




I can hep you with whatever you need for your teapot carb. I've been doing them for a long time.


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Old 09-17-2018, 07:39 AM   #26
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Old 09-17-2018, 11:29 AM   #27
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I pulled the carb back off and noticed that the gasket lines up with with one of the small holes over one of the vacuum passages. The gasket came with the kit but is it the right one?

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Old 09-17-2018, 12:08 PM   #28
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Yes, that gasket will work OK. To make the kits universal, they put in larger bore holes so it would also work on the '56 Lincoln teapot which had larger throttle bores.


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Old 09-23-2018, 12:44 PM   #29
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Getting ready to pull the timing cover off to check the alignment. I've read about the 12 links between the marks. Anything else I should look for. Chain is new but my dad thinks he timed it like any normal engine. Twelve pins I should say. Not links.
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Old 09-23-2018, 01:30 PM   #30
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Chain is new but my dad thinks he timed it like any normal engine. ...
... Twelve pins I should say. Not links.
Yes... "pins" not links.

And if you accidentally think this timing chain position has anything to do with cyl #1 being at TDC
Don't let it confuse you, because it doesn't.

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Old 09-23-2018, 03:08 PM   #31
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Noticed that the oil pan bolts to the timing cover. What a PITA!
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Old 09-24-2018, 03:32 AM   #32
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noticed that the oil pan bolts to the timing cover. What a pita!
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Old 10-17-2018, 07:01 AM   #33
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Finally got the timing cover off. I have the rotor pointing at #1 spark plug wire and this is where the timing marks are currently.

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Old 10-17-2018, 10:45 AM   #34
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It looks like your not getting any ignition advance with no vacuum lines to the distributor. The one port on the diaphragm appears to have the threads stripped too.


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Finally got the timing cover off. I have the rotor pointing at #1 spark plug wire and this is where the timing marks are currently.
Ignore the position of the distributor rotor. It's not relevant at this point.

With the spark plugs out, use the damper pulley bolt to rotate the crankshaft until the keyway and timing mark on the crank gear are in the correct position, see attached image, then look for the timing mark on the cam gear.

Looking at your 2nd photo, you may need to rotate the crankshaft another full turn.

It should match the diagram, if it doesn't that's a problem to fix.
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Old 10-17-2018, 12:31 PM   #36
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Are you sure the timing chain is new? It looks a bit loose in this photo.
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. . . Chain is new . . .


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Old 10-17-2018, 12:44 PM   #37
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Ignore the position of the distributor rotor. It's not relevant at this point.

With the spark plugs out, use the damper pulley bolt to rotate the crankshaft until the keyway and timing mark on the crank gear are in the correct position, see attached image, then look for the timing mark on the cam gear.
The referring photo you are showing is a multi-index crank gear w/ DBL roller chain and may cause confusion.

Try this one-



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Old 10-17-2018, 01:00 PM   #38
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You gotta watch this-

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b1Z2L9pgMXU

He's almost as old and ugly as me ...
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Old 10-17-2018, 06:21 PM   #39
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The only thing he said wrong in the video is that there were 12 links on the timing chain between the two dots on the gears. It's actually 12 pins (not links). It makes a difference.


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Old 10-17-2018, 06:54 PM   #40
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He said he changed it but it definately has a lot of slop in it. So when the timing marks are in the proper position where should I expect the rotor to be pointing? Are the marks not TDC for #1 cylinder?
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