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Old 08-08-2018, 04:16 PM   #1
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Default Can anyone help me determine value on a few early 1928 pieces?

I hate to be the guy asking "what's it worth?" but I happened into some early '28 stuff that I have never had before. I intend to keep some things out of the package I bought and to sell the things I do not need. The items I will be wanting to sell are all "AR" as some people refer to them, or simply "early 28" as I've always called it.

I guess at the end of the day I'm curious about the rear fenders and the chassis. The fenders are "beaver tail" type, as I've heard them called. I don't know what a fair price is, as I have not been able to locate any for sale or recently sold. I have all fenders, splash aprons, running boards, radiator splash pan, headlight bar, spare tire carrier, etc. that all came off of an "AR" or early 1928 roadster.

Then there is the chassis. It is extremely nice and has all of the early '28 things I know to look for, like the left side ebrake, unusual engine mount system, pancake generator, etc. The engine runs very well and it runs, drives, stops, etc. I've driven it around a few times and it runs the way it should and is very tidy. Does an early running chassis fetch more than a "regular" one?

The engine number appears to be:

*A1C7405 ( I suppose the C could be an 0 ?) I haven't tried to unscramble it yet to see what it tells me. The rest of the car seems to have all early things on it though, so I would assume? And for what it's worth, I have not lifted the body to inspect the numbers on the frame, but I was told that they "don't match the engine numbers"

Other things I noticed at a glance that lend itself to the early theme of it all are the rear wishbones look different than I remember "regular" ones looking, maybe a little smaller diameter and the area where they mount in the rear looks different than I remember.

I also noticed that all 5 wheels appear to be the correct early ones, with the different looking and skinnier center "hub", etc.

I know this thread would benefit from photos, which I can post later if need be. I guess more than anything I am wondering if in general terms these items fetch more than the same "average" items of a later production?

I really appreciate any insight! And again, sorry for the "what's it worth" type thread, but I just want to be sure I am fair when I do go to sell these things. And like I said, I have not had any experience previously with this particular situation.

Thank you again.
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Old 08-08-2018, 06:29 PM   #2
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Engine #107405 was made on Apr 30, 1928
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Mark, I appreciate that a lot!
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Old 08-08-2018, 06:50 PM   #4
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PLEASE post some pictures of these early components, we would all be interested to see.
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Old 08-08-2018, 09:16 PM   #5
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PLEASE post some pictures of these early components, we would all be interested to see.

Sure, I'll try to do that now.
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Old 08-08-2018, 09:28 PM   #6
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here are some photos
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Old 08-08-2018, 09:29 PM   #7
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a few more
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Old 08-08-2018, 10:57 PM   #8
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Default Re: Can anyone help me determine value on a few early 1928 pieces?

Nice looking parts. There are folks here who will be able to help you value some of them. Try a search for old threads on "early 28" or "AR" and see if you can locate those members. Dean from Bozeman, Montana is another gent who recently completed an early Phaeton and he posted lots of pics on his very early chassis years ago. Good Luck!!
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Old 08-09-2018, 02:15 AM   #9
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I forgot to mention I also have an open end front bumper.
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Old 08-09-2018, 04:26 AM   #10
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Is the engine number the same as that stamped on the chassis?
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Old 08-09-2018, 06:24 AM   #11
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one thing to realize- while these parts are "rare" and desirable to some, many are just restoring plain Jane A's and not wanting to pay a premium. so you may be sitting on these "rare" parts for some time, to gather a small premium.....


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Old 08-09-2018, 10:32 AM   #12
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As far as I can see by your pictures, your sheet metal looks pretty straight. They typically will not fetch much more than regular 28/29 in the same condition. The running board aprons are usually tough to sell. As Mark pointed out above in post #2, your number would make it a late April '28, which makes it almost mid-28, so most or all of the chassis does not have the "rare" early '28 stuff that we VE-28 guys are looking for. My opinion is that what you have is probably worth what any Model A chassis and sheet metal is worth.
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Thank you for the replies.

As far as the engine, I know it is not original to the chassis, they just tried to get a 28 engine to match the chassis as much as possible. The numbers do not match.
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Old 08-09-2018, 01:48 PM   #14
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Thank you for the replies.

As far as the engine, I know it is not original to the chassis, they just tried to get a 28 engine to match the chassis as much as possible. The numbers do not match.
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I forgot to mention I also have an open end front bumper.
Open end bumper was very early, First 200 models.
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