The Ford Barn

CBoz · 06-06-2012, 07:31 PM

Finally got around to recording some driving videos. Those of you who already have an old car know what fun they are, but I thought I'd post this out to youtube for those who haven't experienced it yet:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-N4ciP2Evw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K-hb96FCt3Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qVUvvbBitIM

PS -- Sorry if the videos are a little bumpy, but you know how it goes

kp4150 · 06-06-2012, 07:54 PM

Enjoyed the video. A beautiful car!

Old Henry · 06-06-2012, 07:59 PM

Great videos. Gorgeous car. Thanks for sharing.

bugsiegel · 06-06-2012, 08:23 PM

Cboz
can you describe for us how the two speed rear works, how/when you engage and disengage it?
I seen you engage it but I couldn't tell if you let off the gas pedal ect....
can you downshift with it engaged?
how much rpm drop do you get from it in top gear?
and finally what make is it? or is it factory?

Vic Piano · 06-06-2012, 08:26 PM

Cecil, I really enjoyed going along with you in that beautiful '37. Thanks for the ride!

Can you tell me what program/format you used to post the video? I shoot video with a Canon XL2 broadcast digital camera but I have not tried to post anything (edited or not) to YouTube as yet.

I’ve got a couple of questions about your Zephyr as well if you don’t mind. I noticed that you have the radio head mounted in the passenger side ash tray housing (on our '39 the radio head mounts in the drivers side ash tray) also, your OD knob is mounted under the drivers side ash tray and comes through the dash (on the '39 there is a bracket that clips onto the underside edge of the dash, just to the right of the emergency brake handle, that holds the cable for the OD). Is the radio head on the passenger side because of where the OD cable is placed?

Thanks, Vic

CBoz · 06-06-2012, 08:35 PM

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Hey Vic -- I shot it with a Canon Powershot digital camera I bought a few years ago. When I plugged the camera into my computer, Windows started up a "Wizard" application that downloaded my videos as (pretty big) AVI files. I then uploaded these to Youtube, which takes these AVI files and shrinks them down prior to posting. Really, it was pretty straightforward.

The radio head could go on either side. I put it on the passenger side because of the OD cable and also because I had some additional wiring on that side for the fuel pump and emergency flashers (it was getting pretty crowded).

CBoz · 06-06-2012, 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by bugsiegel

Cboz
can you describe for us how the two speed rear works, how/when you engage and disengage it?
I seen you engage it but I couldn't tell if you let off the gas pedal ect....
can you downshift with it engaged?
how much rpm drop do you get from it in top gear?
and finally what make is it? or is it factory?

Basically, there is a vacuum line to the rear axle, which allows you to engage or disengage the Columbia unit. To engage, you press down the clutch pedal like you are going to shift gears, then pull the knob, which works the vacuum switch to engage the Columbia (you can hear a slight "clunk"). After that you simply let the clutch out and you are in "overdrive." To get out of overdrive, you press in the clutch, push the knob back in, which switches the vacuum direction and disengages the Columbia unit. After you hear the "clunk", you let out the clutch and continue on.

BTW, I hate that they call it overdrive because it really isn't that at all, but simply a different rear-end ratio. Because of that, you can work any of the gears as you normally would with either the Columbia engaged or not. Think about it as being able to choose between the "stock" rear-end ratio, and one that is about 27% taller. For example, my car is 4.11:1 stock and the Columbia drops this to about 3.00:1.

For the Lincoln-Zephyrs, the Columbia two-speed rear axle was available from the factory or the dealer. I don't believe the Columbia was available from the factory for a Ford, but I know a lot of them were added later. Hope this helps.

bmwillia · 06-06-2012, 09:59 PM

Thanks for sharing!!

Videos like this keep me motivated!!

CBoz · 06-06-2012, 10:17 PM

You're welcome. I hope it's a good reminder that these cars were great drivers -- like I said elsewhere, you don't have to drop an over-cammed "Cheby" smallblock in them to enjoy them, and in fact, I think it's cool to see how well they performed for our fathers and grandfathers. Of course, I wouldn't have been upset if Henry had seen fit to put hydraulic brakes on my car

19Fordy · 06-06-2012, 10:25 PM

What a great car. You can tell the ride is sooooooooo smooth - like silk.

Vic Piano · 06-07-2012, 06:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CBoz

Hey Vic -- I shot it with a Canon Powershot digital camera I bought a few years ago. When I plugged the camera into my computer, Windows started up a "Wizard" application that downloaded my videos as (pretty big) AVI files. I then uploaded these to Youtube, which takes these AVI files and shrinks them down prior to posting. Really, it was pretty straightforward.

The radio head could go on either side. I put it on the passenger side because of the OD cable and also because I had some additional wiring on that side for the fuel pump and emergency flashers (it was getting pretty crowded).

Cecil, thanks for the info, I appreciate it. Vic

Vic Piano · 06-07-2012, 06:22 AM

BTW, I hate that they call it overdrive because it really isn't that at all, but simply a different rear-end ratio. Because of that, you can work any of the gears as you normally would with either the Columbia engaged or not. Think about it as being able to choose between the "stock" rear-end ratio, and one that is about 27% taller. For example, my car is 4.11:1 stock and the Columbia drops this to about 3.00:1.

For the Lincoln-Zephyrs, the Columbia two-speed rear axle was available from the factory or the dealer. I don't believe the Columbia was available from the factory for a Ford, but I know a lot of them were added later. Hope this helps.

Now I've got to get back into the Columbia so we can install it in the '39 LZ. I thought that all '36-'39 LZ's came with 4.44 rears, didn't know they had 4.11's.

CBoz · 06-07-2012, 08:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vic Piano

Now I've got to get back into the Columbia so we can install it in the '39 LZ. I thought that all '36-'39 LZ's came with 4.44 rears, didn't know they had 4.11's.

Some '36 Zephyrs came with 4.33s, but the rest came with 4.44s. Since I have a banjo rear-end that's shared with a Ford, I decided to bring it down to a 4.11, which is much more streetable. Unfortunately Vic, you have the hypoid rear-end and are pretty much stuck with a 4.44 -- you *really* need the Columbia!

Vic Piano · 06-07-2012, 08:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CBoz

Some '36 Zephyrs came with 4.33s, but the rest came with 4.44s. Since I have a banjo rear-end that's shared with a Ford, I decided to bring it down to a 4.11, which is much more streetable. Unfortunately Vic, you have the hypoid rear-end and are pretty much stuck with a 4.44 -- you *really* need the Columbia!

Yup, I'm sure the Columbia will make a big difference as far as "top end" goes. Hopefully we'll get into the Columbia in the not too distant future.

fonti · 06-07-2012, 08:29 AM

wow - what a great car! thank you for sharing this videos!!

Ken Arms · 06-07-2012, 09:33 AM

Great ride! Now you should make another video and add music...Hot Rod Lincoln?

06-06-2012, 07:31 PM	#1
CBoz Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Chapel Hill, NC Posts: 94	Driving videos Finally got around to recording some driving videos. Those of you who already have an old car know what fun they are, but I thought I'd post this out to youtube for those who haven't experienced it yet: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-N4ciP2Evw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K-hb96FCt3Y https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qVUvvbBitIM PS -- Sorry if the videos are a little bumpy, but you know how it goes

06-06-2012, 07:54 PM	#2
kp4150 Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: NE Oklahoma Posts: 64	Re: Driving videos Enjoyed the video. A beautiful car!

06-06-2012, 07:59 PM	#3
Old Henry Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Orem, Utah Posts: 5,762	Re: Driving videos Great videos. Gorgeous car. Thanks for sharing. __________________ Prof. Henry (The Roaming Gnome) "It is good to have an end to journey toward; but it is the journey that matters, in the end.” *Ursula K. Le Guin in The Left Hand of Darkness

06-06-2012, 08:23 PM	#4
bugsiegel Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 248	Re: Driving videos Cboz can you describe for us how the two speed rear works, how/when you engage and disengage it? I seen you engage it but I couldn't tell if you let off the gas pedal ect.... can you downshift with it engaged? how much rpm drop do you get from it in top gear? and finally what make is it? or is it factory? __________________ Mechanically Inclined but not Auto Familiar

06-06-2012, 08:26 PM	#5
Vic Piano Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Odessa, FL Posts: 7,611	Re: Driving videos Cecil, I really enjoyed going along with you in that beautiful '37. Thanks for the ride! Can you tell me what program/format you used to post the video? I shoot video with a Canon XL2 broadcast digital camera but I have not tried to post anything (edited or not) to YouTube as yet. I’ve got a couple of questions about your Zephyr as well if you don’t mind. I noticed that you have the radio head mounted in the passenger side ash tray housing (on our '39 the radio head mounts in the drivers side ash tray) also, your OD knob is mounted under the drivers side ash tray and comes through the dash (on the '39 there is a bracket that clips onto the underside edge of the dash, just to the right of the emergency brake handle, that holds the cable for the OD). Is the radio head on the passenger side because of where the OD cable is placed? Thanks, Vic __________________ Imagination is more important than knowledge.

06-06-2012, 08:35 PM	#6
CBoz Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Chapel Hill, NC Posts: 94	Re: Driving videos Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) Hey Vic -- I shot it with a Canon Powershot digital camera I bought a few years ago. When I plugged the camera into my computer, Windows started up a "Wizard" application that downloaded my videos as (pretty big) AVI files. I then uploaded these to Youtube, which takes these AVI files and shrinks them down prior to posting. Really, it was pretty straightforward. The radio head could go on either side. I put it on the passenger side because of the OD cable and also because I had some additional wiring on that side for the fuel pump and emergency flashers (it was getting pretty crowded).

06-06-2012, 09:59 PM	#8
bmwillia Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Gonzales, LA Posts: 457	Re: Driving videos Thanks for sharing!! Videos like this keep me motivated!! __________________ Brad Williamson

06-06-2012, 10:17 PM	#9
CBoz Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Chapel Hill, NC Posts: 94	Re: Driving videos You're welcome. I hope it's a good reminder that these cars were great drivers -- like I said elsewhere, you don't have to drop an over-cammed "Cheby" smallblock in them to enjoy them, and in fact, I think it's cool to see how well they performed for our fathers and grandfathers. Of course, I wouldn't have been upset if Henry had seen fit to put hydraulic brakes on my car

06-06-2012, 10:25 PM	#10
19Fordy Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Coral Springs FL Posts: 10,943	Re: Driving videos What a great car. You can tell the ride is sooooooooo smooth - like silk.

06-07-2012, 06:22 AM	#12
Vic Piano Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Odessa, FL Posts: 7,611	Re: Driving videos BTW, I hate that they call it overdrive because it really isn't that at all, but simply a different rear-end ratio. Because of that, you can work any of the gears as you normally would with either the Columbia engaged or not. Think about it as being able to choose between the "stock" rear-end ratio, and one that is about 27% taller. For example, my car is 4.11:1 stock and the Columbia drops this to about 3.00:1. For the Lincoln-Zephyrs, the Columbia two-speed rear axle was available from the factory or the dealer. I don't believe the Columbia was available from the factory for a Ford, but I know a lot of them were added later. Hope this helps. Now I've got to get back into the Columbia so we can install it in the '39 LZ. I thought that all '36-'39 LZ's came with 4.44 rears, didn't know they had 4.11's. __________________ Imagination is more important than knowledge.

06-07-2012, 08:29 AM	#15
fonti Junior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Switzerland Posts: 29	Re: Driving videos wow - what a great car! thank you for sharing this videos!!

06-07-2012, 09:33 AM	#16
Ken Arms Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Essex Vermont Posts: 599	Re: Driving videos Great ride! Now you should make another video and add music...Hot Rod Lincoln?