Adjust toe in

[oldford]

What is a good way to adjust the toe in on a 35/36 car, thanks

[hotrodart]

I used a "stick" and a tape measure to mark it with a felt tip pen. Did the centerline (front and back) of each tire. Adjusted the tie-rod ends to get 1/16 inch. To check my method, I put the car on a 4-wheel alignment machine......was exactly on specs.

Remember that you need to have all rod ends and king pins in good condition, and wheel bearings adjusted properly.

[ford38v8]

Support your front axle on two equal jackstands.

Spin each wheel while holding a piece of blackboard chalk to the center of the tread to make a heavy line. Follow this with a black pencil to make an accurate fine line on the chalk.

Measure the distance from one wheel (fine line) to the other at the front, and also at the rear. The front dimension should be 1/8" (2 x 1/16") shorter than the rear.

Spin both wheels 1/4 turn and repeat the above to verify the setting.

[19Fordy]

Originally Posted by ford38v8

Support your front axle on two equal jackstands.

Spin each wheel while holding a piece of blackboard chalk to the center of the tread to make a heavy line. Follow this with a black pencil to make an accurate fine line on the chalk.

Measure the distance from one wheel (fine line) to the other at the front, and also at the rear. The front dimension should be 1/8" (2 x 1/16") shorter than the rear.

Spin both wheels 1/4 turn and repeat the above to verify the setting.

For some reason I always thought toe-in was measured with the wheels touching the ground. Am I incorrect?

[ford38v8]

If taken to an alignment shop, I think they do it on plates that can rotate. Shouldn't be a factor either way.

[cmbrucew]

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If you set it using jackstands, I would check it with the car weight on the tires.
Bruce

[Jerry Parr WI]

Originally Posted by 19Fordy

For some reason I always thought toe-in was measured with the wheels touching the ground. Am I incorrect?

You are correct. Also the car should be rolled forward before making the measurement. Excellent instruction is in the Model A Service Bulletins and are reproduced on Marco's Model A site
http://www.abarnyard.com/workshop/align.htm
The instructions are still good for later cars and the identical tool is still available. Do a web search for "Duby Wheel Alignment Gauge" to find a supplier. Price in the $75 to $100 range.

[ford38v8]

I saved the 75-100 bucks and jerry rigged a broomstick with a pointer on one end and a yardstick on the other. How often are you gonna need this tool, anyway?

[Mart]

A newspaper under each wheel can make a poor man's rotating table. I do it with the wheels on the ground. Roll the car back and forth a bit before re-measuring.

[richard crow]

dick spadaro sells a nice one not expensive & can be used on any car old or modern

[oldford]

Thanks, I used the spin the wheel method and it worked fine. Instead of chalk, I put masking tape around the OD of the tire and mark on it with a fine point pen.

[ford38v8]

This same discussion is current on the EFV8 Forum. I'll concede that the best way is with wheels grounded, and I do like the newspaper idea for that. Supereal on the V8 site tells me i'm wrong with the 1/16" per wheel dimension. He used to work in a Dealership and used the Duby gage there, adjusting for 1/16" total, not per wheel. What's the concensus here on that, 1/16" total both wheels or per wheel?

[FlatheadTed]

up to 1/6 per wheel .I would use a tape measure with wheels on the ground to the centre tread front and back .Roll the car forward ,do it again .If your car tends to wander on the free way ,Tow it in a little .check tyre ware pattern ,

[Lawson Cox]

Originally Posted by ford38v8

This same discussion is current on the EFV8 Forum. I'll concede that the best way is with wheels grounded, and I do like the newspaper idea for that. Supereal on the V8 site tells me i'm wrong with the 1/16" per wheel dimension. He used to work in a Dealership and used the Duby gage there, adjusting for 1/16" total, not per wheel. What's the concensus here on that, 1/16" total both wheels or per wheel?

1/6 total.

[gmc1941]

It's better to use kitchen wax paper under the tires, but double and the wheels will reflect there true position. My my 2cents

[FlatheadTed]

If the car ducks and dives & tracks chances are that its towed out ,If it gets tyre squeal when turning its towed in ,I think my car is towed in 3/32 s . it now tracks straight and true .

[Ray With]

Car needs to be on the ground. I drive in the shop and hit the brakes- center mark tires and measure distance front and rear put 1/8 toe in total then back out of shop and back in again and hit brakes and re check. If measured right you will be dead on the mark.

[296 V8]

I like to do them like this

On stands under the axle
Wheels off
Strait edges on the wheel mounting surface’s
Marks on strait edges at tire diameter (front and rear)
Simply run the tape across front and rear.

I prefer this to trying to use the tire and its easier to do this way when your by yourself

[ora masters]

Originally Posted by ford38v8

Support your front axle on two equal jackstands.

Spin each wheel while holding a piece of blackboard chalk to the center of the tread to make a heavy line. Follow this with a black pencil to make an accurate fine line on the chalk.

Measure the distance from one wheel (fine line) to the other at the front, and also at the rear. The front dimension should be 1/8" (2 x 1/16") shorter than the rear.

Spin both wheels 1/4 turn and repeat the above to verify the setting.

right on my old friend who just passed on at 86 two month s ago taugh me this many years ago

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[David J]

A couple simple methods from stockcar land . First pic is 2 aluminum plates 2' x 9" with slit's for tapemeasures 3" up from the bottom on all 4 ends . Just lay against the tire so that the top edge is flush with the sidewall { 9" up gets above any sidewall bulging } and string two tapemeasures between . The long " C " shaped thing is really simple and is meant for doing it by yourself . The tab on top on one lays aginst the sidewall on the far side and you check the near end with a tape . Both setups are cheap,simple,easy to make & are totally accurate IF your stuff is straight . I can't get the pics through - sorry & I'll try later . Hearz da pics