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Old 07-09-2020, 12:41 PM   #1
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I'm going to replace my 59 oil pan, the one I have is sand blasted and etched. should I not paint the inside or yes? If yes what would you use? Thanks Ken
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Old 07-09-2020, 12:50 PM   #2
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I agree with 51 Merc. Absolutely NOT !!
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Old 07-09-2020, 01:08 PM   #4
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I fitted a brand new new old stock pan to my 59A crusty flatty and took a great deal of care to take the existing paint OFF the inside of it.
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Old 07-09-2020, 02:47 PM   #5
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Consider Glyptal, the special paint used inside big transformers and engine blocks.
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Old 07-09-2020, 03:17 PM   #6
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Why paint the inside ? Do you think it may rust or something ?
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Old 07-09-2020, 05:45 PM   #7
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I'll have to go with David G. I painted an engine with it inside engine everywhere I could, including pan. If you get it de-greased correctly it will not come off. Nothing will stick to it. It is also used to paint inside electric motors. Al
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Old 07-09-2020, 06:32 PM   #8
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grumpy, will it work to paint the inside of a starter and generator?
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Old 07-09-2020, 06:50 PM   #9
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It seems to me the very best you could hope for in painting he inside of an oil pan would be that it didn't hurt anything. It isn't going to help anything and you can't see it. So why do that? I've never seen one on any kind of car with paint in there.
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Old 07-09-2020, 08:51 PM   #10
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No,No,No. Don't even think about painting the inside of your oil pan.

All you need is a couple of paint specs to get into your oil system and you're done.

If you take an oil pan off of any engine you will rarely see rust unless water has gotten inside.
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Old 07-09-2020, 09:22 PM   #11
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Right, all those race car owners who use Glyptal inside their engine blocks, cylinder heads, and oil pans to improve engine performance couldn't possibly know what they are doing.
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Old 07-09-2020, 09:34 PM   #12
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I always paint the inside of the blocks. One of the reasons is it increases the rate of oil return to the oil pan.
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I would venture to add that 99.9 % of flat head engines are not super duper high performance where the use of GLYPTAL is needed to increase the rate of oil return by a few milliseconds. However, my "built 354 hemi engine block (not the pan) is painted GLYPTAL. Sorry but, I couldn't resist the temptation to post photos.
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No oil present in those areas, right?
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Old 07-09-2020, 10:27 PM   #15
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Jim, That is one terrific looking engine! I don't blame you for posting those pictures here. Hell, if that were mine, I'd probably post it on the Studebaker form. I'm the guy that got away with posting a picture of a dusty old Olds Rocket on here and even go a couple of favorable comments. Of course, I may be a little prejudiced, as I have a couple of hemis of my own.
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Old 07-09-2020, 11:47 PM   #16
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Jim, That is one terrific looking engine! I don't blame you for posting those pictures here. Hell, if that were mine, I'd probably post it on the Studebaker form. I'm the guy that got away with posting a picture of a dusty old Olds Rocket on here and even go a couple of favorable comments. Of course, I may be a little prejudiced, as I have a couple of hemis of my own.
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Hey Denny, we all know that the FordBarn revolves around the Flathead V/8
but i'd bet there are a few Flathead lovers that have messed with Hemi V/8
engines and others too.
Denny, as a Minnesotan, I'm sure You prolly knew Tom Hoover (Dragracer Fame).
Below is a '29 Ford Roadster I had in the late 80's with a Hoover built 392
Hemi with a 671 Huffer... It ran like a Thief in the Night...FAST.
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Old 07-10-2020, 12:33 AM   #17
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Sorry but, I couldn't resist the temptation to post photos.
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Well, ya can't delete MY posting of this jewel! I'm pretty sure I have knowledge of where this beautiful piece of Jim Pullen handiwork is headed....'Top Secret' Guvment project, for sure. I get excited imagining what this beast would look like immersed down in the bowels of that black 19Fordy coupe. A beautiful example of an iconic piece of American folklore! DD


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Old 07-10-2020, 06:17 AM   #18
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Lanny,

Sorry to say, I never met Tom Hoover; my drag racing days were several years before his and I was long gone when he was at his peak. You never cease to amaze me as to some of the cars you have had and the things you have done.

If I had had something like that in the "late eighties", I would have killed myself for sure. I had a "T" bucket in the '60's with a good runnin' 270 Dodge hemi that was scary fast. I can't even imagine a blown 392.......
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Old 07-10-2020, 10:49 AM   #19
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19Fordy, Nail on the head! The return rate to the pan at high RPM is the advantage of Glyptal. I had a friend who was able to get his motor into a Dupont plant for a teflon treatment. Seemed like more about bragging rights since it did not race.

The Model T boys like Glyptal because the insides can get coated with trans band fibers, and dirt ( helps to install a screen,to slow the circulation of material ) The problem is real in a T. Passages get clogged if not addressed regularly.

Jim in Wisconsin makes a very logical point.

As to pix of Hemis... Did the engineers at Chrysler Never See An Ardun? My Hemi thrill came to me at the age of seventeen. ( '56 D500 ) You can write your own conclusion.
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As to pix of Hemis... Did the engineers at Chrysler Never See An Ardun? .

They both came-about in the same relative time frame. As far as 'looks-wise'......I'm sorry, but the Ardun just makes the Mopar Hemis look like an afterthought, and I love the look of a Hemi! But WTH do I know? We also can't forget that the hemi was designed as an all-inclusive powerplant package by a huge organization, whereas the Arduns were designed as an ad-on accessory by a couple of sharp brothers to help seemingly anemic and overheating flathead Ford engines performing Herculean tasks in large trucks....an expensive (albeit gorgeous) 'band-aid', if you will. The 'racer' boys finally realized their true worth. DD
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