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Old 12-10-2018, 06:23 PM   #1
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Default Did you read the blog about the issues with the Judging Standards

In the world of social media mentality, this one wreaks of ignorance IMO however I'll let you decide.

https://oldskoolmotoring.wordpress.c...friend-or-foe/
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Old 12-10-2018, 07:16 PM   #2
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I loved it, think it is spot on. Two thumbs up. My opinions in a nut shell.
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Default Re: Did you read the blog about the issues with the Judging Standards

Not everyone uses the Judging Standard to build a "Points Car". Sometimes they are referred to in order to install parts correctly... i.e. the author's upside down headlight reflectors...
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Old 12-10-2018, 07:27 PM   #4
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I'm with redmodelt.

The writer points out one of my favorite sayings when describing those that have to complain about another's work....

Some people are happiest when they are unhappy.
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He is right but a wee bit touchy.
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Old 12-10-2018, 07:30 PM   #6
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Not everyone uses the Judging Standard to build a "Points Car". Sometimes they are referred to in order to install parts correct... i.e. the author's upside down headlight reflectors...
Hey now, it is his car and he likes it that way!
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Not a KIWI.
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Old 12-10-2018, 08:32 PM   #8
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Unimportant.
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His engine colour should be grey not green.
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Old 12-10-2018, 09:36 PM   #10
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Judging standards are important for some, refer to them as you please or if you want. Depends on what you want. I like a nice "original style" car!
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Old 12-10-2018, 09:37 PM   #11
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Take a close look at the NON Original -Re-Pop Quail !!..
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Old 12-10-2018, 09:42 PM   #12
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Some one should tell him to read only the "restoration guidelines" part of the book !!..

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Old 12-10-2018, 10:39 PM   #13
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I think that the Old Skool Motoring article is "Spot On" ! People enjoy the "Model 'A' Experience" for a lot of different reasons; all should be respected! I own a Model "A" and want to keep its basic look and feel, but also have modifications to make it fit my particular needs: original engine but with 12 volt system, alternator, Borg/Warner T5 transmission, and seat belts. I want to keep my car clean, running well and enjoy touring the Northeast, but have zero interest in entering competitions and being judged...to each his own!
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Old 12-10-2018, 11:03 PM   #14
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In the world of social media mentality, this one wreaks of ignorance IMO however I'll let you decide.

https://oldskoolmotoring.wordpress.c...friend-or-foe/
Would that be ignorance on the part of the writer, or on the part of those he was writing about?
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Old 12-11-2018, 01:04 AM   #15
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Would that be ignorance on the part of the writer, or on the part of those he was writing about?
Several items however the biggie is that it is not a Restoration Guidelines to him, -only a Judging Stds.
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I thought people were judging him, and his car, on the Restoration Guidelines.

Have a look at the export figures from Canada to here. Almost all were chassis and RHD at that. Then there were prominent artists of the day that got involved in paint colours, complete with pin stripes on the louvers. Trucks were sent out of the factory to have bodies made, which could have included the ute. Then there were the sport bodies ...
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Several items however the biggie is that it is not a Restoration Guidelines to him, -only a Judging Stds.
I think he knows that quite well. I understood him to be upset that the Resto Guidelines & Judging Standards are being used by some in an attempt to impose their own “thou shalt” opinions on his restoration project, ignoring the possibility that there are other ways to skin a cat.
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Old 12-11-2018, 08:10 AM   #18
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I think that the Old Skool Motoring article is "Spot On" ! People enjoy the "Model 'A' Experience" for a lot of different reasons; all should be respected! I own a Model "A" and want to keep its basic look and feel, but also have modifications to make it fit my particular needs: original engine but with 12 volt system, alternator, Borg/Warner T5 transmission, and seat belts. I want to keep my car clean, running well and enjoy touring the Northeast, but have zero interest in entering competitions and being judged...to each his own!
Hey Gary, I think your statement is exactly the thoughts of what created/creates the friction. The writer has a Sedan that he is refreshening on an older restoration and he came onto the Model-A Restorers Club social media page asking questions about what is correct. Several people suggested that he purchase the JS&RG book. I will stop to chase a rabbit here that I agree there are MANY people that use that line that don't know the correct answer either but want to make apublic post, so that advice does get overused quite a bit.

Anyway, back to your point, ...yes there are many that want to modify their Model-A and that is fine with most people however in his case (-like many) he asked the questions about what is correct on a club's site that promotes originality. He then gets offended when a few point him to the JS&RG in which he apparently does not want to purchase so he evidently retaliates by posting a blog. Maybe a better way to put this is, he apparently felt entitled to receiving an answer to his questions for which he was unwilling to research himself. When he did not receive the answer he felt was correct, he writes a blog (-which BTW he is profiting from).

So in your scenario where you do not wish to enter into adjudication, -nor do you really seek to have everything correct, then I and most would agree that the JS&RG Book is not for you, -however I also would say you are mature enough that this book does not offend you just because it was not written about how your car was rebuilt. Additionally, if you did have one certain area that you did want to authentically restore, you likely would not complain if someone referred you to the JS&RG book for guidance ....even though you are not showing your Model-A.
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Old 12-11-2018, 08:22 AM   #19
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The judging standards are very good basic guidelines for those who want such. One should build their car to their standards. If one wants to argue/ponder minutia of a bolt finish or other anal stuff, they should have at it.
Otherwise, use it as a tool as one sees fit. I find it a great source of information but never intend to participate in any way with fine point judging. I have been there done that and don't find that is "my cup of tea"
But thanks to the JS committee for a fine reference work.

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Old 12-11-2018, 09:29 AM   #20
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I agree with the oval. Let us keep it simple. The name change came when my wife edited the '97 revision. Looked at me one day while working on it and said "we have this backwards. It should be the Restoration Guidelines and Judging Standards". "It is for everybody and one can choose to whatever level they decide what their vehicle can be restored too". It is simply that. Another said to me 'I only want a driver". I replied "We all have drivers. Why do you think we got into this hobby? We just want to be better at something than we are". "Whether it is golf, bowling, cards, tennis, triathalons or restoration. You name it. It is a challenge, a study and a proqurement outside of our normal daly routine". This hobby has brought myself and my family to people and places I otherwise would never have known. grj
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