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skidmarks · 07-29-2018, 02:36 PM

Flathead ford to LaSalle offenhauser bellhousing that uses the flathead ford clutch fork.

I have researched it and cant find any for sale or ones that have actually sold. I have found wanted ads for them. In other posts it pretty much says rare, hard to find and expensive.

Anyone know of any that sold or what the realistic number is.

Ol' Ron · 07-29-2018, 04:06 PM

Back in the late 50's we made them from a 2" thick piece of aluminum for the old "Y" blocks. I realize that doesn't answer your question, but might give you another avenue to try, as the bell housings are similar.

JM 35 Sedan · 07-29-2018, 10:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by skidmarks

Flathead ford to LaSalle offenhauser bellhousing that uses the flathead ford clutch fork.

I have researched it and cant find any for sale or ones that have actually sold. I have found wanted ads for them. In other posts it pretty much says rare, hard to find and expensive.

Anyone know of any that sold or what the realistic number is.

Do you have one you want to sell, or are you looking to buy one?

HotRodmicky · 07-30-2018, 04:38 AM

Hildebrand made them
I have one (not for sale ) and would buy another one if i can get one

skidmarks · 07-30-2018, 07:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HotRodmicky

Hildebrand made them
I have one (not for sale ) and would buy another one if i can get one

Do you know off hand how many different manufacturers produced them?

deuce lover · 07-30-2018, 10:09 AM

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Like this? It was $1900 a few yrs ago.

skidmarks · 07-30-2018, 10:23 AM

Tough to determine how to break that down, would that make the bellhousing worth $500 to 900 ? Seems like there are still more transmissions around then the bellhousing. Plenty of stock castiron Cadillac and 50 olds bellhousings. I see even new aluminum 50 olds bellhousings

mrtexas · 07-30-2018, 11:20 AM

What is the advantage to a LaSalle transmission? Takes more HP? Old style hot rod?

deuce lover · 07-30-2018, 11:48 AM

From what I understand and know back in the day(1950's) the guys running the Olds,Pontiac's and Caddy's would blow their early Ford trans with that HP the overheads produced and especially banging second. The La Salle was a much stronger transmission.In about '63 I had a good friend with a deuce tudor running a roller cam'd Pontiac .It had a La Salle trans and Olds rear.The Olds rear had welded spider gears so in effect is was a locked rear end.Tight turns was a problem as both wheels turned together.Once in a while on Sat nite Drive-In cruises(like Oscars in Long Beach,CA)he would get challenged.Off we went to Terminal Island (Long Beach,CA) and find a spot to race.He never lost and didn't blow the La Salle trans either.Only thing is he couldn't power shift like you can with a T10 4sp.

John R · 07-30-2018, 04:43 PM

You might consider modifying an adapter for another transmission. One possibility is the Offenhauser adapter number 3648, early Ford to Buick Roadmaster. It is basically the same as the adapter for the Cad LaSalle trans with a different trans bolt pattern. However, I have no idea if it can be redrilled for the Cad LaSalle. The Buick adapter may be a little more plentiful and likely much cheaper.

skidmarks · 07-30-2018, 05:29 PM

I did more searches and found just the adapter used that sold for $450 two years ago,

and found this current listing on ebay.

Item number:

202111686809

1931flathead · 07-30-2018, 05:45 PM

1937 Cadillac Top Shift Transmission for Flathead Ford SCTA Hot Rat Rod Rare | eBay
https://www.ebay.com/itm/1937-Cadill...-/202111686809

JSeery · 07-30-2018, 06:25 PM

Would have to want one bad for that price. There are much better transmissions to use, so it would only be for the nostalgia of it.

Ol' Ron · 07-30-2018, 06:46 PM

Back in the late 50's and early 60's, there was a company in Bridgeport CT that mad new shift levers and shear pins for the Cad La Sale transmissions. He also mad the 2" adapters for the Ford Y block engines. Theses could be modified for the Hogs head Flathead s The cad trans had a long input shaft. Also the buick trand would bolt up the chevy bell housing with just a few mods. Brings back fond memories.

Newc · 07-30-2018, 07:31 PM

Note this is a HAMB type post. But , I have a Chev bellhousing to Cad LaSalle adapter plate for sale. $150 Newc

skidmarks · 07-30-2018, 07:59 PM

$3800 is about $2000 high. I think from the limited info i found $500 to 750 is the range for the bellhousing and $1000 for a good 37 transmission. Side shift LaSalle $150

Tinker · 07-30-2018, 08:22 PM

Better gearing and stronger unit.

I have a side shift LaSalle, always thought it'd be a neat setup for a 3 on the tree car.

Tinker · 07-30-2018, 08:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JSeery

Would have to want one bad for that price. There are much better transmissions to use, so it would only be for the nostalgia of it.

Isn't that sorta the point of it all here? Or drop a turbo 350 or T5 in.

I'm just messing with ya.

JSeery · 07-30-2018, 09:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tinker

Isn't that sorta the point of it all here? Or drop a turbo 350 or T5 in.

I'm just messing with ya.

Not for me, but to each there own.

Tinker · 07-30-2018, 09:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JSeery

Not for me, but to each there own.

The lasalle trans or the t5? or are you talking about putting a 3sp ford in? What's a better transmission to put in for his needs?

I think Ol' Ron makes a good point. You may have to just make a adaptor.

07-29-2018, 02:36 PM	#1
skidmarks Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: newark, delaware Posts: 3,735	Flathead to Lasalle transmission adapter bellhousing Flathead ford to LaSalle offenhauser bellhousing that uses the flathead ford clutch fork. I have researched it and cant find any for sale or ones that have actually sold. I have found wanted ads for them. In other posts it pretty much says rare, hard to find and expensive. Anyone know of any that sold or what the realistic number is.

07-29-2018, 04:06 PM	#2
Ol' Ron Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Chester Vt Posts: 8,856	Re: Flathead to Lasalle transmission adapter bellhousing Back in the late 50's we made them from a 2" thick piece of aluminum for the old "Y" blocks. I realize that doesn't answer your question, but might give you another avenue to try, as the bell housings are similar.

07-30-2018, 04:38 AM	#4
HotRodmicky Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Germany Posts: 249	Re: Flathead to Lasalle transmission adapter bellhousing Hildebrand made them I have one (not for sale ) and would buy another one if i can get one

07-30-2018, 10:09 AM	#6
deuce lover Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Southern France Posts: 5,301	Re: Flathead to Lasalle transmission adapter bellhousing Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) Like this? It was $1900 a few yrs ago.

07-30-2018, 10:23 AM	#7
skidmarks Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: newark, delaware Posts: 3,735	Re: Flathead to Lasalle transmission adapter bellhousing Tough to determine how to break that down, would that make the bellhousing worth $500 to 900 ? Seems like there are still more transmissions around then the bellhousing. Plenty of stock castiron Cadillac and 50 olds bellhousings. I see even new aluminum 50 olds bellhousings

07-30-2018, 11:20 AM	#8
mrtexas Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Sugar Land, TX Posts: 4,395	Re: Flathead to Lasalle transmission adapter bellhousing What is the advantage to a LaSalle transmission? Takes more HP? Old style hot rod? __________________ 41 woodie https://41fordwoodie.weebly.com/

07-30-2018, 11:48 AM	#9
deuce lover Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Southern France Posts: 5,301	Re: Flathead to Lasalle transmission adapter bellhousing From what I understand and know back in the day(1950's) the guys running the Olds,Pontiac's and Caddy's would blow their early Ford trans with that HP the overheads produced and especially banging second. The La Salle was a much stronger transmission.In about '63 I had a good friend with a deuce tudor running a roller cam'd Pontiac .It had a La Salle trans and Olds rear.The Olds rear had welded spider gears so in effect is was a locked rear end.Tight turns was a problem as both wheels turned together.Once in a while on Sat nite Drive-In cruises(like Oscars in Long Beach,CA)he would get challenged.Off we went to Terminal Island (Long Beach,CA) and find a spot to race.He never lost and didn't blow the La Salle trans either.Only thing is he couldn't power shift like you can with a T10 4sp. Last edited by deuce lover; 07-30-2018 at 11:57 AM.

07-30-2018, 04:43 PM	#10
John R Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: near Washington, DC Posts: 559	Re: Flathead to Lasalle transmission adapter bellhousing You might consider modifying an adapter for another transmission. One possibility is the Offenhauser adapter number 3648, early Ford to Buick Roadmaster. It is basically the same as the adapter for the Cad LaSalle trans with a different trans bolt pattern. However, I have no idea if it can be redrilled for the Cad LaSalle. The Buick adapter may be a little more plentiful and likely much cheaper. __________________ Those who do not move do not die, but are they not already dead?

07-30-2018, 05:29 PM	#11
skidmarks Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: newark, delaware Posts: 3,735	Re: Flathead to Lasalle transmission adapter bellhousing I did more searches and found just the adapter used that sold for $450 two years ago, and found this current listing on ebay. Item number: 202111686809

07-30-2018, 05:45 PM	#12
1931flathead Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: central minn Posts: 1,025	Re: Flathead to Lasalle transmission adapter bellhousing 1937 Cadillac Top Shift Transmission for Flathead Ford SCTA Hot Rat Rod Rare \| eBay https://www.ebay.com/itm/1937-Cadill...-/202111686809

07-30-2018, 06:25 PM	#13
JSeery Member Emeritus Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Wichita KS Posts: 16,132	Re: Flathead to Lasalle transmission adapter bellhousing Would have to want one bad for that price. There are much better transmissions to use, so it would only be for the nostalgia of it.

07-30-2018, 06:46 PM	#14
Ol' Ron Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Chester Vt Posts: 8,856	Re: Flathead to Lasalle transmission adapter bellhousing Back in the late 50's and early 60's, there was a company in Bridgeport CT that mad new shift levers and shear pins for the Cad La Sale transmissions. He also mad the 2" adapters for the Ford Y block engines. Theses could be modified for the Hogs head Flathead s The cad trans had a long input shaft. Also the buick trand would bolt up the chevy bell housing with just a few mods. Brings back fond memories.

07-30-2018, 07:31 PM	#15
Newc Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 2,482	Re: Flathead to Lasalle transmission adapter bellhousing Note this is a HAMB type post. But , I have a Chev bellhousing to Cad LaSalle adapter plate for sale. $150 Newc

07-30-2018, 07:59 PM	#16
skidmarks Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: newark, delaware Posts: 3,735	Re: Flathead to Lasalle transmission adapter bellhousing $3800 is about $2000 high. I think from the limited info i found $500 to 750 is the range for the bellhousing and $1000 for a good 37 transmission. Side shift LaSalle $150

07-30-2018, 08:22 PM	#17
Tinker Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: MN Posts: 7,053	Re: Flathead to Lasalle transmission adapter bellhousing Better gearing and stronger unit. I have a side shift LaSalle, always thought it'd be a neat setup for a 3 on the tree car.