The Ford Barn

BLACKNRED · 08-15-2010, 05:31 AM

Well I bought this 5 Window about 5 years ago as a future project,the car had sat in a shed for 40 years, the car was covered in fine silt as if a flood had gone through it, the coupe had'nt run for longer than the 40 years,

So today, my two sons and myself decided to have a go at getting the old girl going, oil was clean, and the engine turned over, so we made a fuel tank out of a pea tin, set the timing and kicked it in the guts, unbelievably it fired up and ran like a clock.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYUV2...layer_embedded

Terry, NJ · 08-15-2010, 06:05 AM

Now that it starts, Better drain the oil. I would put fuel oil (3 qts + 1 oil) and start it again . Let it idle for ten minutes and drain again. Repeat the process one or two more times. Here's what your'e doing. The engine, while sitting, is accumulating rust one the cam, cyl.walls, etc. When you started it, the rust rubbed off these surfaces and went into solution into the oil. This is equivalent to throwing a tablespoon of sand into the engine. Only flushing the engine several times gets it out. Good luck!
Terry

peters180a/170b · 08-15-2010, 07:14 AM

Very nice ,good luck with your 33. I would say 33/34 was the best looking cars for Ford. Keeping it stock???

Ray in La Mesa · 08-15-2010, 08:49 AM

We just acquired a barn find. It started life as an Aug. 27, 1928 coupe. Then turned into a farm truck for 30 years, cowl/windshield only with a wood bed. It was used hard then left to rust . Then sat in a field for another 30 years. I bought it originally to part out but after inspecting it, decided there wasn,t the value in parts worth the price I paid. Just then my wife saw it and thought it would be great as yard art. So now it sits on the front lawn and I'm adding parts to make it more presentable instead of taking parts off. The engine was free so I decided to start it. Rehabbed the dist. & carb. and fired it up. Smoked & knocked like crazy and overheated as the honeycomb radiator was totally clogged. One axle key was missing and I found out why--the axle was frozen solid! Sooo, I have a one wheel drive Model A , the neighbors love it. Haven't heard from the city yet about parking on the grass.

FL&WVMIKE · 08-15-2010, 11:58 AM

BLACKNRED ......................
That '33 Ford with the four cylinder motor is a very rare car. They did not make very many, in the first place, and you just never see them today ! There are very few around.
It is tempting to change the engine, but, I hope that you don't.
MIKE

BLACKNRED · 08-15-2010, 05:54 PM

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Hi Guys, the car is out of Argentina, US body B model Deluxe 5 Window ( chrome windscreen frame and cowl lights). engine and chassis numbers match. Interesting items include RHD and a Kilometre per hour speedometer.

I will be rodding the car as stock bodied using the B Model power plant, rebuilding it with dual carbs, finned head although would prefer an overhead conversion, 36 diff with open tailshaft and running a 6 speed dual overdrive manual gearbox, colour Black and Red,

re rarity, many books claim a production number of 28 cars as a 1933 Deluxe 5W B model, and they suggest this included exports, but in Argentina, who knows what they got up to, of interesting note it has a factory? filled roof insert, funny enough the car was originally black.

Chris Haynes · 08-15-2010, 06:37 PM

[QUOTE=BLACKNRED;62365]Hi Guys, the car is out of Argentina, US body B model Deluxe 5 Window ( chrome windscreen frame and cowl lights). engine and chassis numbers match. [QUOTE]

The number should be on the frame and bellhousing. At least on US models. Henry wasn't numbering engines so your car could have interchangable engines.

BLACKNRED · 08-15-2010, 09:34 PM

Hi Chris, you are absolutely correct, my loose terminology.

regards

Kurt in NJ · 08-15-2010, 11:34 PM

The oil being "clean" usually means all the sludge has settled out, it is a very good idea to drop the pan before starting an engine that has sat for a long time to clean out the sludge that is lining the bottom of the pan ---i have seen 2-4 inches and the oil on top of it clean like "new"

Another problem that needs checked is acid pitting, it will eat holes in the dipper tray, and the spring that holds the oil pump up.

08-15-2010, 05:31 AM	#1
BLACKNRED Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: adelaide australia Posts: 163	First start up in 40 years ................ Well I bought this 5 Window about 5 years ago as a future project,the car had sat in a shed for 40 years, the car was covered in fine silt as if a flood had gone through it, the coupe had'nt run for longer than the 40 years, So today, my two sons and myself decided to have a go at getting the old girl going, oil was clean, and the engine turned over, so we made a fuel tank out of a pea tin, set the timing and kicked it in the guts, unbelievably it fired up and ran like a clock. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYUV2...layer_embedded

08-15-2010, 06:05 AM	#2
Terry, NJ Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Bucks Co, Pa Posts: 3,740	Re: First start up in 40 years ................ Now that it starts, Better drain the oil. I would put fuel oil (3 qts + 1 oil) and start it again . Let it idle for ten minutes and drain again. Repeat the process one or two more times. Here's what your'e doing. The engine, while sitting, is accumulating rust one the cam, cyl.walls, etc. When you started it, the rust rubbed off these surfaces and went into solution into the oil. This is equivalent to throwing a tablespoon of sand into the engine. Only flushing the engine several times gets it out. Good luck! Terry

08-15-2010, 07:14 AM	#3
peters180a/170b Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Putnam Valley N.Y. Posts: 2,151	Re: First start up in 40 years ................ Very nice ,good luck with your 33. I would say 33/34 was the best looking cars for Ford. Keeping it stock??? Last edited by peters180a/170b; 08-15-2010 at 07:47 AM.

08-15-2010, 08:49 AM	#4
Ray in La Mesa Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: La Mesa Ca Posts: 1,166	Re: First start up in 40 years ................ We just acquired a barn find. It started life as an Aug. 27, 1928 coupe. Then turned into a farm truck for 30 years, cowl/windshield only with a wood bed. It was used hard then left to rust . Then sat in a field for another 30 years. I bought it originally to part out but after inspecting it, decided there wasn,t the value in parts worth the price I paid. Just then my wife saw it and thought it would be great as yard art. So now it sits on the front lawn and I'm adding parts to make it more presentable instead of taking parts off. The engine was free so I decided to start it. Rehabbed the dist. & carb. and fired it up. Smoked & knocked like crazy and overheated as the honeycomb radiator was totally clogged. One axle key was missing and I found out why--the axle was frozen solid! Sooo, I have a one wheel drive Model A , the neighbors love it. Haven't heard from the city yet about parking on the grass.

08-15-2010, 11:58 AM	#5
FL&WVMIKE Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Daytona Beach, Fl & Spencer, W. Va, Posts: 4,442	Re: First start up in 40 years ................ BLACKNRED ...................... That '33 Ford with the four cylinder motor is a very rare car. They did not make very many, in the first place, and you just never see them today ! There are very few around. It is tempting to change the engine, but, I hope that you don't. MIKE

08-15-2010, 05:54 PM	#6
BLACKNRED Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: adelaide australia Posts: 163	Re: First start up in 40 years ................ Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) Hi Guys, the car is out of Argentina, US body B model Deluxe 5 Window ( chrome windscreen frame and cowl lights). engine and chassis numbers match. Interesting items include RHD and a Kilometre per hour speedometer. I will be rodding the car as stock bodied using the B Model power plant, rebuilding it with dual carbs, finned head although would prefer an overhead conversion, 36 diff with open tailshaft and running a 6 speed dual overdrive manual gearbox, colour Black and Red, re rarity, many books claim a production number of 28 cars as a 1933 Deluxe 5W B model, and they suggest this included exports, but in Argentina, who knows what they got up to, of interesting note it has a factory? filled roof insert, funny enough the car was originally black.

08-15-2010, 06:37 PM	#7
Chris Haynes Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Camarillo, CA and Pine Grove, CA Posts: 2,832	Re: First start up in 40 years ................ [QUOTE=BLACKNRED;62365]Hi Guys, the car is out of Argentina, US body B model Deluxe 5 Window ( chrome windscreen frame and cowl lights). engine and chassis numbers match. [QUOTE] The number should be on the frame and bellhousing. At least on US models. Henry wasn't numbering engines so your car could have interchangable engines. __________________ 1921 Runabout 1930 Tudor Early 1930 AA Speed costs money. How fast do you want to go?

08-15-2010, 09:34 PM	#8
BLACKNRED Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: adelaide australia Posts: 163	Re: First start up in 40 years ................ Hi Chris, you are absolutely correct, my loose terminology. regards

08-15-2010, 11:34 PM	#9
Kurt in NJ Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: on the Littlefield Posts: 6,158	Re: First start up in 40 years ................ The oil being "clean" usually means all the sludge has settled out, it is a very good idea to drop the pan before starting an engine that has sat for a long time to clean out the sludge that is lining the bottom of the pan ---i have seen 2-4 inches and the oil on top of it clean like "new" Another problem that needs checked is acid pitting, it will eat holes in the dipper tray, and the spring that holds the oil pump up.