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Old 02-23-2012, 10:14 PM   #1
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Question Where to get 6 volt positive ground elecronic flasher?

My big old hound dog nose is usually pretty good at sniffing this stuff out but it seems plugged up with something right now and I haven't found one of these. Bought one that was advertised as 6 volt that turned out to be 12 volt. So, where do I get me one? The standard 535 thermal flasher flashes too fast for me.
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Old 02-24-2012, 12:31 AM   #2
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How about this Honda 6 volt two prong (no ground so polarity wouldn't matter?) electronic? Any reason it wouldn't work? http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=120859565413
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Old 02-24-2012, 07:29 AM   #3
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I believe these folks carry them to use on Amish horse-drawn vehicles:
Witmer Coach Shop
1070 W Main St
New Holland, PA 17557
(717) 656-3411
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Old 02-24-2012, 08:14 AM   #4
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napa auto parts just say ya own a 47 pickup
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Old 02-24-2012, 03:04 PM   #5
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Old Henry, go to NAPA and ask for 6V flasher # 535 Its a 6V three prong and works great for me in the 40
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Old Henry, go to NAPA and ask for 6V flasher # 535 Its a 6V three prong and works great for me in the 40
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napa auto parts just say ya own a 47 pickup
Please note: Original post said I'm already using the 535 thermal flasher which I got from NAPA it just flashes too fast, maybe 'cause it's only flashing one bulb. That's why I'm looking for an electronic one.
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Old 02-24-2012, 04:25 PM   #7
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I think you hit the nail on the head! If your only flashing one bulb the 535 ( which I use on my '48 ) will flash very rapidly. Older Guys like me used it as a warning back when, that one bulb was burned out still works today.

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Old 02-24-2012, 04:47 PM   #8
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I think you hit the nail on the head! If your only flashing one bulb the 535 ( which I use on my '48 ) will flash very rapidly. Older Guys like me used it as a warning back when, that one bulb was burned out still works today.

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I actually added a 1 ohm resistor (same load as a bulb) and buzzer in each circuit that should have slowed the blinking down but didn't.
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Old 02-24-2012, 05:00 PM   #9
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Just received a PM asking why I was only blinking one bulb. Here's why.

These are my turn signals:



One bulb in each fixture that sticks in the back window with the little suction cups and are switched by the little switch that clamps under the dash board. Was not made to blink originally, just turn on to indicate turn indication. That's why I'm blinking only one bulb. Not conventional system that blinks any original lights.
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Old 02-24-2012, 05:21 PM   #10
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Can't you wire in a socket and bulb in the wiring harness on each side in the trunk or whatever,just so you have 2 bulbs flashing. You dont need to see them, you just need the resistance. Marv
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Can't you wire in a socket and bulb in the wiring harness on each side in the trunk or whatever,just so you have 2 bulbs flashing. You dont need to see them, you just need the resistance. Marv
Adding the 1 ohm resistor in the circuit was the same thing. If you check the ohms of the bulbs in your turn signal lights, that's it. Didn't help.
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Old 02-24-2012, 05:34 PM   #12
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Old Henry>>>I actually added a 1 ohm resistor (same load as a bulb)>>>

Bulb filament resistance is a lot higher when lit than measured cold. So instead of a 1 ohm resistor, add another bulb in parallel to the circuit and see if the flasher slows down. Then do something like Marv suggested earlier.

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Old 02-24-2012, 06:08 PM   #13
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Old Henry>>>I actually added a 1 ohm resistor (same load as a bulb)>>>

Bulb filament resistance is a lot higher when lit than measured cold. So instead of a 1 ohm resistor, add another bulb in parallel to the circuit and see if the flasher slows down. Then do something like Marv suggested earlier.

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I will give it a try and report how it went. I'd thought of that when I first installed the system but didn't want a bulb just blinking somewhere under the dash board.
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Old 02-24-2012, 06:24 PM   #14
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The bulb in the rear unit needs to be 21Watt. The "dummy" bulb also needs to be 21Watt. Flasher units are designed to run with a load of 2 x 21watts, and sometines a 4 or 5Watt side marker bulb. If the bulb in the rear unit is less than 21Watt and you add a 21Watt bulb, you might still be flashing fast.
Not sure if Watts is the system you use in the USA, but it's what we use over here.
It's what the brake filament is in a dual filament bulb, the rear light is 5W.

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Old 02-24-2012, 06:28 PM   #15
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The bulb in the rear unit needs to be 21Watt. The "dummy" bulb also needs to be 21Watt. Flasher units are designed to run with a load of 2 x 21watts, and sometines a 4 or 5Watt side marker bulb. If the bulb in the rear unit is less than 21Watt and you add a 21Watt bulb, you might still be flashing fast.
Not sure if Watts is the system you use in the USA, but it's what we use over here.
It's what the brake filament is in a dual filament bulb, the rear light is 5W.

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The aircraft halogen bulb I've put in is marked 19 cp which I think is candle power. The original bulb was only 1.5 cp and pretty dim. No watts marked on either bulb. Don't know how cp corresponds with watts.
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I will give it a try and report how it went. I'd thought of that when I first installed the system but didn't want a bulb just blinking somewhere under the dash board.
Just paint it black.
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Don't know how cp corresponds with watts.
Just found this conversion table someone made up for watts and candle power although others say there is no direct conversion because different bulbs give different levels of light using the same watts. Anyway, here it is:

CP Watts Milliwatts Milliamps

1.5 = .028 = 28 = 2.33
3.0 = .056 = 56 = 4.66
6.0 = .113 = 113 = 9.42

If that chart is accurate, my 19 cp halogen bulbs only use .35 watts a piece. I'd have to hook up 60 of them to get 21 watts! And 120 to equal two 21 watt bulbs! Looks like I better stick with the electronic flasher that is not dependent on load to work.
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Old 02-24-2012, 07:08 PM   #18
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4dFord/SC>>>Just paint it black. >>>

Or just call it another turn signal indicator light....a bright one.

Henry, if your 1.5cp bulb was about 1 ohm cold, it was probably about 2 ohms lit. Which means it is an 18 watt bulb, about the same as Mart suggested was needed.

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Well, after looking at that setup in the pictures, I'd have to say it's a pretty neat apparatus,assembly,mechanism,devise for flashing people with lights !
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Old 02-24-2012, 07:21 PM   #20
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Here's what I'm dealing with:
The left bulb came from Mac's in a package marked 21 cp, no watts. The middle one is the 1.5 cp that came with the fixtures. The right on is the aircraft halogen bulb that's rated at 19 cp.



So, maybe the itty bitty halogen actually draws the same as the big bulb. It certainly is as bright. Maybe I will just try wiring another of the big bulb on the left into the circuit and see what happens.
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