Bearing retainers

[mrtexas]

What/why the difference?

[Bob C]

Why not post the pictures here so we don't have to hunt
for them in your profile

[mrtexas]

http://mrtexascitrus.weebly.com/retainer.html

[SteveB31]

Late one on the left, early one an the right.

[Tom Endy]

The retainer on the right is a late version as it has a smaller hole where the bearing sits. Ford did this to better control oil leakage. The one on the left appears to be an early version as the finish looks smooth. The very early ones were forged and have a smooth finish to them, and also have a little bulge at the four corners. However, it is the bolt pattern that determines late and early.

I believe there were four versions of rear bearing retainers made. At one time I had a sample of each.

The concern regarding a rear bearing retainer is not about if it is the early or late version, but if it matches the U-joint housing assembly you plan to use. Both versions will bolt up to a transmission. The early retainers had an irregular bolt pattern for the six bolt holes that mate with the U-joint housing assembly. The late retainers have a symmetrical bolt pattern. This is why the gasket sets come with two bolt holes elongated.

Before you install a different transmission in a car take the U-joint housing assembly you plan to use, which comprises three pieces, and match it to the retainer you plan to use. Make sure all six bolt holes line up in all four pieces. This is important because late and early retainers and U-joint housing have been switched around over the years.

I have taken a number of transmission out of cars that had the incorrect match and not all the bolts were there. When ever I sell a rebuilt transmission I offer the customer either version rear retainer, late or early.

Tom Endy

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Originally Posted by Bob C

Why not post the pictures here so we don't have to hunt
for them in your profile

His pictures show up fine for me. I recently encountered this in another thread. I think some people's browsers do not pick up images that are imbedded instead of uploaded. I actually had my image uploaded to my User Album here and I just linked the Fordbarn url however some folks claimed they could not see it. Maybe Ryan needs to be made aware of this so when future searches are done, the image will be available.

[Mitch//pa]

thanks tom e good info