1935 Roadster production order

[Don Rogers]

35fordtn, Mike, It sounds like you have an experimental 48-7006 case. Ford may have been trying out the new design(minus grease fittings) before going into full production in February

[SUHRsc]

Here is the body tag and the area of the frame with the VIN.

I'd prefer to not strip the paint on the frame right now... so I guess that shuts down this discussion until I do so.

Thanks for the input, everyone.

[DavidG]

Michael/Don,

The transmission case in my January, 1935 engine build date phaeton does not have grease fittings and I do not recall it having an EX along with the rest of the 48-prefix part number. The case is original to the car judging from the VIN. It's a pretty low mileage car and I'm the second owner.

[Don Rogers]

It sounds like the grease fittings did not come out with the introduction of the 48 case. My stash of transmission cases have them. They must have been a running change.

Live and Learn

[DavidG]

Please excuse the additional detour.

Don,

Speaking of grease fittings, was their addition to the brake cross shaft a running change or a service part only phenomenon post '36?

[Don Rogers]

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Dave, I believe that it was a post 36 service part addition.

[JM 35 Sedan]

I have a pile of '35-'36 cross shafts that I have collected over the years, and none of them have, or ever had grease fittings except for those I personally rebuilt for my own cars. I used bronze bushings that came standard from the bearing manufacturer with the exact ID for the shaft and OD to fit the mounting bracket with a very slight press fit. Also had to make new shafts for these rebuilds, but I think the end product will work better and last a lot longer than the originals that had some type of woven fiber material surrounded by a formed sheetmetal can that Ford used for bearings.

[Terry,OH]

Mike: I believe the EX suffix in the part number, is for Export. From the export parts I have seen they can have some very unusual features. For example: 1940 Ford headlight buckets with Ford (embossed in the glass lens) original headlights. The headlight bulbs are held together with clips to make them take apart so the light bulb inside could be replaced. A 35 restorer told me he had seen some early 35 transmissions with the throw out bearing lube cup.
SUHRsc: On your body tag, the 7I0 is a stylized 710, the Ford, body, model number for a Roadster. Your tag does appear to be original to the body, the tag is not a reproduction. The early body mounts would appear to be early March or before frame.

[35fordtn]

Terry,
I was of the thought that export cars had a letter at the begining of the Vin? Not disputing, only trying to learn.. I was under the assumption as well that EX in a part number was a experimental part. I have some Aluminum heads and water pumps of different designs from that of normal production parts that have EX behind the part# as well.

[35fordtn]

Sorry Zach, we have done a fabulous job at Hijacking your thread!

[DavidG]

Terry,

Nope. Exported LHD parts were the same as used domestically. An F as the last figure in a engine/transmission number prefix designated it for use in RHD vehicles, whether they were assembled in the U.S. or abroad.

Consistent with this is the transmission case that I refer to above. It is from a U.S.-manufactured vehicle assembled abroad (and there's no EX marking on any part of the car).

[DavidG]

Michael,

It's an "F" and it's the last figure of the prefix. Nothing in the way of part number prefixes or engine number prefixes distinguishes a LHD vehicle produced for domestic sale from one produced for export (except where the lighting or brake system requirements of the destination country differ from those of the country where the vehicle is manufactured).

[SUHRsc]

Originally Posted by 35fordtn

Sorry Zach, we have done a fabulous job at Hijacking your thread!

It's still interesting information!

[DavidG]

My apologies too! But I've just edited my two most recent posts to correct a silly error on my part.

The use of an F in a prefix is not only confined to RHD engine/transmission numbers. There are numerous examples of LHD parts with an F in the prefix and not just outside of North America. Both the early '32 four-cylinder starter switch and the right side tail lamp bracket had part number prefixes of BF, for example. Further, of the six different brake systems used on '32 passenger cars and commercial vehicles worldwide, five all had varying degrees of parts with BF part number prefixes and two of those five systems were for LHD vehicles. It is highly likely that a similar use of the F designation in LHD part number prefixes continued on for years.

My apologies for the confusion.

[philippe]

hello

i'm french from lyon,
i have a total original 35 roadster,
i can see on my car that you are looking for,
my heads are very old and one is repair from a long time,
do you know where can i find new one ?
philippe

[SUHRsc]

This is the transmission case number with the December 34 VIN on the top that is in my car.

[SUHRsc]

More details : 1 piece center floorboard. Inspection plate with hole for grease cup.

[JM 35 Sedan]

Originally Posted by philippe

hello

i'm french from lyon,
i have a total original 35 roadster,
i can see on my car that you are looking for,
my heads are very old and one is repair from a long time,
do you know where can i find new one ?
philippe

Hello Philippe, are the heads on your 35 roadster made of aluminum or cast iron?