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Ian NZ · 06-24-2013, 05:02 PM

I have just bought a Ford Distributor Stroboscope of a Ford Dealer which has been stored in the back shed for several years.
What I would like to obtain is copies off, or the Electrical or the Mechanical drawings, or specifications of this model stroboscope similar to the one in the photo.
Would anyone know where I can obtain these drawings etc.
Thanks.

Lawson Cox · 06-24-2013, 09:38 PM

Gooble or Bing Ford distributor strobscope and see what you find. Include model number if you have if. Maybe Bubba could help you. He posts here all the time. If it makes spark he can fix it.

Ken/Alabama · 06-24-2013, 09:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ian NZ

I have just bought a Ford Distributor Stroboscope of a Ford Dealer which has been stored in the back shed for several years.
What I would like to obtain is copies off, or the Electrical or the Mechanical drawings, or specifications of this model stroboscope similar to the one in the photo.
Would anyone know where I can obtain these drawings etc.
Thanks.

I think I may have the information your looking for. Wil check tomorrow.

Ian NZ · 06-25-2013, 12:29 AM

Ken, That will be great, Thank you

nobuckets · 06-25-2013, 08:38 AM

I have one as well and I have been emailing with a fellow in Iowa about getting the schematics and other info. I haven't gotten them yet, but will post here if I do.

larrys40 · 06-25-2013, 08:55 AM

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Ken,
Are you the one that e-mailed me about the schematics? I will have to see about copying the sets I have. They are fragile of course and I believe I have the small repair manuals on them as well.... I have a few spare parts and another set to go pick up I bought some time back... let me know specifically what you may need.

Ian, I would be cautious with the wire harnesses. The insulation in these is notorious for being hard and cracking.... you don't want to blow any tubes or power supplies/units. Inspect all to make sure they are OK before power up. I just used my stroboscope the other day on a '40 distributor.. I've been using them for almost 30 years with only one problem along the way.... not too bad in my book. They sure make the difference in making them run better.

Will advise on schematic copying...
Larry S

Ken/Alabama · 06-25-2013, 09:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by larrys40

Ken,
Are you the one that e-mailed me about the schematics? I will have to see about copying the sets I have. They are fragile of course and I believe I have the small repair manuals on them as well.... I have a few spare parts and another set to go pick up I bought some time back... let me know specifically what you may need.

Ian, I would be cautious with the wire harnesses. The insulation in these is notorious for being hard and cracking.... you don't want to blow any tubes or power supplies/units. Inspect all to make sure they are OK before power up. I just used my stroboscope the other day on a '40 distributor.. I've been using them for almost 30 years with only one problem along the way.... not too bad in my book. They sure make the difference in making them run better

Will advise on schematic copying...
Larry S

Hi Larry, It wasnt me.

BUBBAS IGNITION · 06-25-2013, 10:32 AM

The Ford foundation has one in their museum in Auburn Indiana as well. They may have some paperwork....interesting machine for sure....
Anyone know who made this unit , maybe Allen Testproducts ??

Bruce Lancaster · 06-25-2013, 10:52 AM

There were I think at least two...pretty sure the manuals gave the source name, not Allen but I cannot remember it.
The machines were pretty thoroughly covered in the service bulletins around 1934 or so, and there were instructions also in the later bulletins. Heyer??

nobuckets · 06-25-2013, 01:19 PM

Hi Larry -

It is me, Ken, that has been emailing with you. I appreciate your help with the schematics and other paperwork. I know these other guys do to.

Thanks,
Ken

larrys40 · 06-25-2013, 03:02 PM

These were made by Heyer Products... the earlier test set was the H1 unit, I believe first coming out in late 1933-34 ( shown in the early service bulletins) and evolved a little including the BRS and stroboscope additions as well as the battery charger (internal) until they came out with the later air powered stroboscope unit and Diagnosis set in '47 and '48. I have a pair of them that I refurbished back in the mid '80's and they have been working great ever since. They are a great tool for load testing coils, condensers, and of course rebuilding/strobing the distributors. It's one of my forte's . If I can have luck posting photos I will later. Mine came out of the back of a bus in Ozark Missouri where they were stored after being rescued from an old Ford Dealer. They still have the orginal warranty claim tags in the drawers. They weren't used much back then. Probably because they were fairly complex and more than the average mechanic wanted to deal with. I'm sure Bubba's will agree.. but when rebuilt and set up properly.. .there is a world of difference in performance.

I will see what I can do pulling/copying some of my material and be back to you guys.
thx.
Larry Shepard
St. Charles, MO

Almost forgot.. I know there was a place down in Arizona at one time that had tubes ( they are kinda generic). Antique radio supply. do the google thing and see what you can come up with. You can compare the numbers and send them photos of yours to make sure they get matched up. Most of the cabinets became homes to mice to make sure things are clean and rodent free.

Ian NZ · 06-25-2013, 05:03 PM

Ian, I would be cautious with the wire harnesses. The insulation in these is notorious for being hard and cracking.... you don't want to blow any tubes or power supplies/units. Inspect all to make sure they are OK before power up. I just used my stroboscope the other day on a '40 distributor.. I've been using them for almost 30 years with only one problem along the way.... not too bad in my book. They sure make the difference in making them run better.

Will advise on schematic copying...
Larry S[/QUOTE]

Larry S. - Thanks for the information about the harness. The Stroboscope works but the vacuum pump requires attention and I want to check out the air motor and replace the H.T. wiring but I require some more information before I service it.

mdsbob · 09-20-2013, 06:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by larrys40

Ken,
I will have to see about copying the sets I have. They are fragile of course and I believe I have the small repair manuals on them as well.... I have a few spare parts and another set to go pick up I bought some time back... let me know specifically what you may need.

Will advise on schematic copying...
Larry S

I realize I'm jumping in on this kind of late, but I am also trying to get copies of the schematics for the stroboscope. I've been able to get a copy of the repair manual (Thanks Ian).
Can anyone help with schematics?

Thanks,
Bob

Lawrie · 09-21-2013, 03:31 PM

Ian , I dont know where in NZ you are,but Horipito has a couple of the testers,one I looked at had all the manuals in the drawer,you may be able to copy them.
Lawrie

Ian NZ · 09-21-2013, 05:06 PM

Lawrie, Thanks for the information I will follow it up, I live in Hawera, Taranaki,
My son Grant is restoring Hombre the dragster.

Dave D · 09-22-2013, 02:13 AM

Oh boy could I use a set of those drawings/semantics too!

Lawrie · 09-22-2013, 04:31 PM

Ian I tried for years to buy one of the testers there,the one in the shed with the model A,s in by the 44 g drums is the complete one you need to look at,
If they will sell it now let me know.
Lawrie

Ian NZ · 10-20-2013, 03:19 PM

Lawrie- I do not know if I have informed you but I have been in touch with Barbara of Horipito Motors and she remarked they had two Ford Distributor stroboscopes there, and you could make up one out of the two of them, but they are not for sale, I asked her about the 'ELECTRICAL SCHEMATICS' for these stroboscopes but she said they could have more information on them but their library was not organised at the moment, so I am still trying to find the Electrical Schematics for this 1949 model of the Ford Distributor stroboscope.

Lawrie · 10-20-2013, 03:49 PM

Ian, the books are in the drawer of the one by the Model A,s.
Lawrie

V12Bill · 10-20-2013, 04:14 PM

I found instructions and parts manuals on E pay for my Sun distributor tester as well as parts and other items.

06-24-2013, 09:38 PM	#2
Lawson Cox Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Above the gnat line in Georgia Posts: 7,009	Re: Ford Distributor Stroboscope Gooble or Bing Ford distributor strobscope and see what you find. Include model number if you have if. Maybe Bubba could help you. He posts here all the time. If it makes spark he can fix it. __________________ Life is like a roll of toilet paper. The closer to the end, the faster it goes. It is better to be seen, than viewed. "We sleep safe in our beds because rough men stand ready in the night to visit violence on those who would do us harm".

06-25-2013, 12:29 AM	#4
Ian NZ Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Taranaki, New Zealand Posts: 922	Re: Ford Distributor Stroboscope Ken, That will be great, Thank you

06-25-2013, 08:38 AM	#5
nobuckets Junior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 11	Re: Ford Distributor Stroboscope I have one as well and I have been emailing with a fellow in Iowa about getting the schematics and other info. I haven't gotten them yet, but will post here if I do.

06-25-2013, 08:55 AM	#6
larrys40 Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: St Charles , Missouri Posts: 1,998	Re: Ford Distributor Stroboscope Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) Ken, Are you the one that e-mailed me about the schematics? I will have to see about copying the sets I have. They are fragile of course and I believe I have the small repair manuals on them as well.... I have a few spare parts and another set to go pick up I bought some time back... let me know specifically what you may need. Ian, I would be cautious with the wire harnesses. The insulation in these is notorious for being hard and cracking.... you don't want to blow any tubes or power supplies/units. Inspect all to make sure they are OK before power up. I just used my stroboscope the other day on a '40 distributor.. I've been using them for almost 30 years with only one problem along the way.... not too bad in my book. They sure make the difference in making them run better. Will advise on schematic copying... Larry S

06-25-2013, 10:32 AM	#8
BUBBAS IGNITION Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: SPEEDWAY INDIANA Posts: 4,148	Re: Ford Distributor Stroboscope The Ford foundation has one in their museum in Auburn Indiana as well. They may have some paperwork....interesting machine for sure.... Anyone know who made this unit , maybe Allen Testproducts ?? __________________ If it Makes Spark, we do it !!!! www.bubbasignition.com [email protected]

06-25-2013, 10:52 AM	#9
Bruce Lancaster Member Emeritus Join Date: May 2010 Location: Madison, NJ Posts: 5,230	Re: Ford Distributor Stroboscope There were I think at least two...pretty sure the manuals gave the source name, not Allen but I cannot remember it. The machines were pretty thoroughly covered in the service bulletins around 1934 or so, and there were instructions also in the later bulletins. Heyer??

06-25-2013, 01:19 PM	#10
nobuckets Junior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 11	Re: Ford Distributor Stroboscope Hi Larry - It is me, Ken, that has been emailing with you. I appreciate your help with the schematics and other paperwork. I know these other guys do to. Thanks, Ken

06-25-2013, 03:02 PM	#11
larrys40 Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: St Charles , Missouri Posts: 1,998	Re: Ford Distributor Stroboscope These were made by Heyer Products... the earlier test set was the H1 unit, I believe first coming out in late 1933-34 ( shown in the early service bulletins) and evolved a little including the BRS and stroboscope additions as well as the battery charger (internal) until they came out with the later air powered stroboscope unit and Diagnosis set in '47 and '48. I have a pair of them that I refurbished back in the mid '80's and they have been working great ever since. They are a great tool for load testing coils, condensers, and of course rebuilding/strobing the distributors. It's one of my forte's . If I can have luck posting photos I will later. Mine came out of the back of a bus in Ozark Missouri where they were stored after being rescued from an old Ford Dealer. They still have the orginal warranty claim tags in the drawers. They weren't used much back then. Probably because they were fairly complex and more than the average mechanic wanted to deal with. I'm sure Bubba's will agree.. but when rebuilt and set up properly.. .there is a world of difference in performance. I will see what I can do pulling/copying some of my material and be back to you guys. thx. Larry Shepard St. Charles, MO Almost forgot.. I know there was a place down in Arizona at one time that had tubes ( they are kinda generic). Antique radio supply. do the google thing and see what you can come up with. You can compare the numbers and send them photos of yours to make sure they get matched up. Most of the cabinets became homes to mice to make sure things are clean and rodent free.

06-25-2013, 05:03 PM	#12
Ian NZ Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Taranaki, New Zealand Posts: 922	Re: Ford Distributor Stroboscope Ian, I would be cautious with the wire harnesses. The insulation in these is notorious for being hard and cracking.... you don't want to blow any tubes or power supplies/units. Inspect all to make sure they are OK before power up. I just used my stroboscope the other day on a '40 distributor.. I've been using them for almost 30 years with only one problem along the way.... not too bad in my book. They sure make the difference in making them run better. Will advise on schematic copying... Larry S[/QUOTE] Larry S. - Thanks for the information about the harness. The Stroboscope works but the vacuum pump requires attention and I want to check out the air motor and replace the H.T. wiring but I require some more information before I service it.

09-21-2013, 03:31 PM	#14
Lawrie Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Qld, Australia Posts: 4,215	Re: Ford Distributor Stroboscope Ian , I dont know where in NZ you are,but Horipito has a couple of the testers,one I looked at had all the manuals in the drawer,you may be able to copy them. Lawrie

09-21-2013, 05:06 PM	#15
Ian NZ Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Taranaki, New Zealand Posts: 922	Re: Ford Distributor Stroboscope Lawrie, Thanks for the information I will follow it up, I live in Hawera, Taranaki, My son Grant is restoring Hombre the dragster.

09-22-2013, 02:13 AM	#16
Dave D Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 290	Re: Ford Distributor Stroboscope Oh boy could I use a set of those drawings/semantics too!

09-22-2013, 04:31 PM	#17
Lawrie Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Qld, Australia Posts: 4,215	Re: Ford Distributor Stroboscope Ian I tried for years to buy one of the testers there,the one in the shed with the model A,s in by the 44 g drums is the complete one you need to look at, If they will sell it now let me know. Lawrie

10-20-2013, 03:19 PM	#18
Ian NZ Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Taranaki, New Zealand Posts: 922	Re: Ford Distributor Stroboscope Lawrie- I do not know if I have informed you but I have been in touch with Barbara of Horipito Motors and she remarked they had two Ford Distributor stroboscopes there, and you could make up one out of the two of them, but they are not for sale, I asked her about the 'ELECTRICAL SCHEMATICS' for these stroboscopes but she said they could have more information on them but their library was not organised at the moment, so I am still trying to find the Electrical Schematics for this 1949 model of the Ford Distributor stroboscope.

10-20-2013, 03:49 PM	#19
Lawrie Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Qld, Australia Posts: 4,215	Re: Ford Distributor Stroboscope Ian, the books are in the drawer of the one by the Model A,s. Lawrie

10-20-2013, 04:14 PM	#20
V12Bill Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Mt. Holly,NJ Posts: 1,822	Re: Ford Distributor Stroboscope I found instructions and parts manuals on E pay for my Sun distributor tester as well as parts and other items.