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Old 10-24-2015, 08:26 AM   #1
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Default Oil Filler Tubes Baffles Adjustment

The old girl has developed a leak that may or may not be a rear main problem (according to my reading of previous threads). The photo shows the oil dripping off the bolts (slight) and split pin (major drip!) after a drive, and the nasty drip trail that follows my car into the garage after coming up a slight incline. Yikes!

The first place I'm going to look tomorrow is the oil filler tube, and hope to find the simplest problem before I move on to explore other likely sources. Always hopeful!

However, I don't know what correctly adjusted baffles should look like. Can you guys please describe what I ought to see down there, and as always, good pictures will help (as I didn't find any in my hunt).

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Old 10-24-2015, 08:53 AM   #2
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My thought is that when you add oil if it runs in fast then the baffles are open.Try running without the cap. Good luck
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If you look in the service bulletins there are pictures of 3 styles of breather pipes, look on page 348, and 454
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Don't try running with the cap off I know first hand that experiment does not work :-(
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I am puzzled why you would think the oil filler tube might be a cause of you oil link problem. Unless you are thinking the baffles are not allowing back pressure to flow.

I think you have a serious rear main problem.
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I am puzzled why you would think the oil filler tube might be a cause of you oil link problem. Unless you are thinking the baffles are not allowing back pressure to flow.....
That's the possibility that I'm wanting to eliminate, based on info in previous threads here.
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If the oil cap tabs are bent and the cap pushed on too far that can cause oil leak
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Your radius ball setup doesn't look right
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If the oil cap tabs are bent and the cap pushed on too far that can cause oil leak
Thanks Colin. Checked and they're OK.

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How so?
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Thanks Colin. Checked and they're OK.



How so?
Where are the springs, spacers,cotter pins, that a stock set up has?

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Where are the springs, spacers,cotter pins, that a stock set up has?

Will check all this. Can you tell I'm a novice Model A owner? But willing to learn, so thanks for being specific, Mike. Believe me, I'm not offended by any critique of my car.
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Besides not having the springs pushing up on the lower cap I see two other things that appear to be wrong. On the left front brake rod return spring, is the spring behind the upset on the rod, so it pushes the rod forward, as it should be? It looks like the upset may be behind the spring, or someone added something behind the spring.

The bottom plate for the battery support appears to be parallel to the mounting frame, but the bottom plate should be spot welded to the frame at an angle, so it sets squarely with the battery.
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W. Can you tell I'm a novice Model A owner?
We all were at some time!

Ask any question you want, the only bad question is the one not asked!

Except asking about which oil to use or if you should get white walls. (do a search and you'll understand the joke)
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Ask any question you want, the only bad question is the one not asked!

Except asking about which oil to use or if you should get white walls. (do a search and you'll understand the joke)
So which oil should I use, Mike!!!
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So which oil should I use, Mike!!!
Wise ass!
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So which oil should I use, Mike!!!
That depends on if you have whitewalls
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I've heard of Wolf's Head oil, but not Wise Ass.
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Stop it you guys, you are doing my head in.
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Besides not having the springs pushing up on the lower cap I see two other things that appear to be wrong. On the left front brake rod return spring, is the spring behind the upset on the rod, so it pushes the rod forward, as it should be? It looks like the upset may be behind the spring, or someone added something behind the spring.

The bottom plate for the battery support appears to be parallel to the mounting frame, but the bottom plate should be spot welded to the frame at an angle, so it sets squarely with the battery.
You guys are OBSERVANT!! Looks like I'm gonna be a busier than I thought.
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The oil cap tabs should be bent so the cap can't go down too far.
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I would first clean it really good . then run it & check to see where the leak is . if still not sure , use the oil dye for leaks . it will be very obvious then ........
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Most guys including me find the rear main can leak if too full. When I change oil I only add 4 quarts, which puts the lever just below the full line.
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BTW, 4 liters is actually more than 4 quarts.
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I would first clean it really good . then run it & check to see where the leak is . if still not sure , use the oil dye for leaks . it will be very obvious then ........
Thanks V4F. I'll do that.
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Most guys including me find the rear main can leak if too full. When I change oil I only add 4 quarts, which puts the lever just below the full line.
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BTW, 4 liters is actually more than 4 quarts.
I don't think this is my problem, Tom. I was careful at last oil change to not overfill above the FULL line on dipstick.

And don't even start on the whole US vs IMPERIAL pints thing! Ours is 20% more in every pint. Must be our generous nature! 🇦🇺
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And don't even start on the whole US vs IMPERIAL pints thing! Ours is 20% more in every pint.
20% only if you go by the numbers. US fluid ounces are actually slightly larger than Imperial fluid ounces, so the Imperial pint is only 16% larger than a US pint.
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So, how is oil packaged in Canada or Australia? When I was in Canada this past summer, the oil that I purchased was in liters.
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So, how is oil packaged in Canada or Australia? When I was in Canada this past summer, the oil that I purchased was in liters.
At 99% of service (gas) stations here, oil is purchased in disposable 1 litre plastic bottles with a lip that's designed to dribble the first 100ml over the top of your motor.

Supermarkets have 4 litre containers and auto parts stores have up to 20 litre drums.

I'm aware of only one servo in my town that still uses the old style refillable bottles with the screw-on pouring spout. I see these at the swap meets for maybe $70!!
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Same here in Canada as Hoogah described for Australia.
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Like Hoogah says, liquids are by the litre. It's always a head scratcher when US instructions talk about fluid ounces. Most times, I end up taking a guess.
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1 US Fluid Ounce = about 30 ML or CC (actually 29.573529564111873)

So when someone tells you to add 4 ounces of Marvel Mystery Oil to your fuel, that would be about 120 ML
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1 US Fluid Ounce = about 30 ML or CC (actually 29.573529564111873)

So when someone tells you to add 4 ounces of Marvel Mystery Oil to your fuel, that would be about 120 ML
That's good but I've never seen Marvel Mystery Oil here.
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When I have my Imperial Pint filled at the pub, why do they charge me more, or under fill my German Pilsner pint?
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I was in England in the 70's (Air Force), and the regular English Pint was 20 oz. So you got a good pint for your money. But the IMPERIAL GALLON (God Save the Queen), was 5 Quarts... God Bless The Queen! Had my share playin' darts!
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I don't know where you can find it DOWN UNDER, MATE, but it is good stuff. I use it in my gas, and I've used it to clean valves and rings.
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