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Old 04-16-2018, 12:34 PM   #1
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Default Are these Model T or Model A Subrails?

Hey fellas! How sharp does your brain feel, today?

Prior to seeing these rails, I had heard they were for a 30/31 A. I need some because my car has none.

A quick look and I knew they weren't. Still, I'd like to know what they are.

The toe area is similar to my T roadster. It has firewall to frame brackets, too. The sill plate is like an A sedan.



So, what exactly am I looking at here?
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Old 04-16-2018, 01:05 PM   #2
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Default Re: Are these Model T or Model A Subrails?

Those are A rails for a two door. See the seat connections so the seat can be rotated forward to let rear seat passengers in.
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Does not look like any A frame rail that I have ever seen. I have a tudor and this is not it.
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Old 04-16-2018, 02:17 PM   #4
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Not chassis frame, subframe also called sub rail here by OP. 1 thing that strikes me as odd, in picture 2 of 6, the triangular filler with the large hole under the dash brace. Never saw that on an A. Any assembly plant #'s on front crossmember, left side?
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Not chassis frame, subframe also called sub rail here by OP. 1 thing that strikes me as odd, in picture 2 of 6, the triangular filler with the large hole under the dash brace. Never saw that on an A. Any assembly plant #'s on front crossmember, left side?
Okay "subframe" assembly, got it. I have similar/same dash braces on my 26 T roadster. However, the sub rails are different. Could this be 28 stuff? The front width is wider than my 26 firewall but narrower than my 30/31.
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Old 04-16-2018, 06:53 PM   #6
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I thought T's had wooden sub rails...;looks like a model A tudor to me.
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1926 to 1927 were all steel bodies, including, sub rails, just like the 1928 Model A's.


Before 1926, they were all wood,


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Old 04-16-2018, 08:46 PM   #8
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Looks very close to a 26-27 two door sedan. But you might be right about 28.
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Old 04-16-2018, 08:52 PM   #9
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After looking at some pics, I think it's a 26/27 Tudor sedan subframe.
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Old 04-16-2018, 09:13 PM   #10
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Are the front seat pivots on any A's made like that? Both my old 29 and my 31 have forged eye bolt types.
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The subrails are 26-27 T Tudor, note the aluminum door sill plates and the metal plates that turn to hold the wooden floorboards in place. Bob .
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Thanks everyone!
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I have been working on and off for the last year,on an old friends 27 sedan. He was missing the very back subrail. I knew those looked familiar. Good luck on your project Brent.
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