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40cpe · 04-06-2016, 04:24 PM

Is this an original tie bolt for a '38 rear spring? The bolt is solid, how does the alemite get grease to the spring channels? There is a slot cut in the threads of the nut that the alemite screws into, but grease would have to go by the tie bolt in the holes in the springs. That doesn't seem likely.

If it isn't original, are they available aftermarket?

thanks,
Gene

deuce lover · 04-06-2016, 04:40 PM

No pic

Terry,OH · 04-06-2016, 05:28 PM

grease path is down the slot in the threads and around the perimeter of the bolt to the spring leafs. Sounds like the original bolt with a square head.

Kurt in NJ · 04-06-2016, 06:00 PM

And you don't use grease---grease clogs the passages, Ford spring oil was about 2/3 light weight oil (about ATF),1/3 talc (polishes the leaves and is a"dry" lubricant)---and originally a little ground asbestos---shake before use----keep grease gun just for spring lube

this lube method was introduced in 36, the picture in thebulletin shows little notches in the centerbolt hole--grooves down thecenter of each leaf--the lubricator fitting nut (slotted tie bolt nut)

ford38v8 · 04-06-2016, 06:15 PM

Gene, don't waste your time and effort trying to lube your springs by that method. The lube will spew out the sides of the leaves as fast as you pump it in and never reach the ends of the leaves where it is needed.

There is no easy way out, you must dismantle, grind and smooth off the burrs, and reassemble using either fifth wheel grease or with teflon as found at Hot Rod supply houses.

Kurt in NJ · 04-06-2016, 06:30 PM

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Once grease has been used lube won't reach the ends of the leaves till the spring is taken apart and cleaned

springs that have only the proper lube the lube reaches the tips of the leaves

ford38v8 · 04-06-2016, 06:44 PM

Kurt, that's good info. I didn't know that. How often do you have to lube them?

40cpe · 04-06-2016, 06:53 PM

Sorry, Picture added to original post

Kurt, thanks for the explanation. What kind o grease gun will hold that mixture. The ones I have are designed to push from the inserted grease tube. I don't think the seal will hold a semi-liquid.

04-06-2016, 04:40 PM	#2
deuce lover Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Southern France Posts: 5,306	Re: Original tie bolt? No pic

04-06-2016, 05:28 PM	#3
Terry,OH Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 4,751	Re: Original tie bolt? grease path is down the slot in the threads and around the perimeter of the bolt to the spring leafs. Sounds like the original bolt with a square head.

04-06-2016, 06:00 PM	#4
Kurt in NJ Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: on the Littlefield Posts: 6,159	Re: Original tie bolt? And you don't use grease---grease clogs the passages, Ford spring oil was about 2/3 light weight oil (about ATF),1/3 talc (polishes the leaves and is a"dry" lubricant)---and originally a little ground asbestos---shake before use----keep grease gun just for spring lube this lube method was introduced in 36, the picture in thebulletin shows little notches in the centerbolt hole--grooves down thecenter of each leaf--the lubricator fitting nut (slotted tie bolt nut)

04-06-2016, 06:15 PM	#5
ford38v8 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: SF Bay Area Posts: 6,645	Re: Original tie bolt? Gene, don't waste your time and effort trying to lube your springs by that method. The lube will spew out the sides of the leaves as fast as you pump it in and never reach the ends of the leaves where it is needed. There is no easy way out, you must dismantle, grind and smooth off the burrs, and reassemble using either fifth wheel grease or with teflon as found at Hot Rod supply houses. __________________ Alan

04-06-2016, 06:30 PM	#6
Kurt in NJ Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: on the Littlefield Posts: 6,159	Re: Original tie bolt? Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) Once grease has been used lube won't reach the ends of the leaves till the spring is taken apart and cleaned springs that have only the proper lube the lube reaches the tips of the leaves

04-06-2016, 06:44 PM	#7
ford38v8 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: SF Bay Area Posts: 6,645	Re: Original tie bolt? Kurt, that's good info. I didn't know that. How often do you have to lube them? __________________ Alan

04-06-2016, 06:53 PM	#8
40cpe Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Star, MS Posts: 4,024	Re: Original tie bolt? Sorry, Picture added to original post Kurt, thanks for the explanation. What kind o grease gun will hold that mixture. The ones I have are designed to push from the inserted grease tube. I don't think the seal will hold a semi-liquid. Last edited by 40cpe; 04-06-2016 at 07:06 PM.