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JohnB15632 · 08-14-2017, 02:50 PM

I was all excited today, I found the engine crank in old parts that I have. I got this crank out and wanted to use it to help time the engine.

Well, my excitement turned to much when I found out that the crank will not fit through the crank guide.

What now? Do I file down the two extensions on the end of the crank, or do I file open the crank guide?

Ideas?

Drive Shaft Dave · 08-14-2017, 03:07 PM

I don't think that is an A crank , the lugs look to large. Does the other end fit a lug nut?

JohnB15632 · 08-14-2017, 03:23 PM

Yes the other end fits the lug nuts. But, I had mixed parts so it is viable the it is not an A crank. Thank you for informing me of this.

Thanks,

Bob C · 08-14-2017, 04:08 PM

Here is a link to Model A hand cranks. http://www.mafca.com/tools/crank.jpg

Bob

Synchro909 · 08-14-2017, 05:51 PM

I've just finished making a crank handle for one of my As and had to file those pins to get them through the guide. I used a small piece of 6mm rod and it didn't fit till I files them down. Unless you want to show the car, I'd file them to fit and drive on.

Dollar Bill · 08-14-2017, 06:57 PM

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What Synchro said. Never defile an OEM part.

BILL WILLIAMSON · 08-14-2017, 09:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dollar Bill

What Synchro said. Never defile an OEM part.

You can FILE a part, but you can't DE-FILE a part
Bill W.

burner31 · 08-15-2017, 11:09 AM

You can buy an original crank handle

Big hammer · 08-15-2017, 11:57 AM

Before you do any work on the pins or the guide! Check and see if it fits the crank pulley nut! Then if it fits and the pins are too long to fit the guide, then a little filing would be ok.
Keeping the pin ends the same shape as before filing. Domed I think?

JohnB15632 · 08-15-2017, 12:29 PM

The problem has been resolved guys!!!!

I purchased a "new" crank from a reputable vendor. It arrived today.
This crank fits like a glove should.

Where the "old" crank came from I have no idea.

But, comparing the two side by side, it is obvious the my old crank belongs to a different year vehicle, if even a Ford.

Thank you guys for helping me. I do appreciate all of you input and guidance.

Thanks,

BILL WILLIAMSON · 08-15-2017, 01:15 PM

Minerva had NO crank, ordered one, didn't have the "GUSTO" to turn it over--LOL
Gregg (RIP) could tighten the lugs to 55 Ft Lbs with it! Chief always said, "Tighten lugs until they go, SCREECH, & that's PERFECT"!
With a FAT crank pin, I always WURRY that it might hang up in the crank nut & go, RRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!
The Dog calls me a "CRANK-NUT"---What shall I do with a Dog like that????
Bill Openforanswers

08-14-2017, 03:07 PM	#2
Drive Shaft Dave Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: New hope Minnesota Posts: 742	Re: Engine crank lever I don't think that is an A crank , the lugs look to large. Does the other end fit a lug nut?

08-14-2017, 03:23 PM	#3
JohnB15632 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Export, PA (Outside of Pittsburgh) Posts: 520	Re: Engine crank lever Yes the other end fits the lug nuts. But, I had mixed parts so it is viable the it is not an A crank. Thank you for informing me of this. Thanks,

08-14-2017, 04:08 PM	#4
Bob C Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: So Cal Posts: 8,751	Re: Engine crank lever Here is a link to Model A hand cranks. http://www.mafca.com/tools/crank.jpg Bob

08-14-2017, 05:51 PM	#5
Synchro909 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 7,496	Re: Engine crank lever I've just finished making a crank handle for one of my As and had to file those pins to get them through the guide. I used a small piece of 6mm rod and it didn't fit till I files them down. Unless you want to show the car, I'd file them to fit and drive on. __________________ I'm part of the only ever generation with an analogue childhood and a digital adulthood.

08-14-2017, 06:57 PM	#6
Dollar Bill Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Keystone Heights, FL Posts: 647	Re: Engine crank lever Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) What Synchro said. Never defile an OEM part. __________________ I Love Anything That Turns Money Into Noise

08-15-2017, 11:09 AM	#8
burner31 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Shawnee, Ok Posts: 3,471	Re: Engine crank lever You can buy an original crank handle __________________ Keith Shawnee OK '31 SW 160-B

08-15-2017, 11:57 AM	#9
Big hammer Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Land of Lincoln Posts: 3,131	Re: Engine crank lever Before you do any work on the pins or the guide! Check and see if it fits the crank pulley nut! Then if it fits and the pins are too long to fit the guide, then a little filing would be ok. Keeping the pin ends the same shape as before filing. Domed I think? __________________ Don't force it with a little hammer tap, tap, tap get a bigger hammer tap done

08-15-2017, 01:15 PM	#11
BILL WILLIAMSON Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: FRESNO, CA Posts: 12,560	Re: Engine crank lever Minerva had NO crank, ordered one, didn't have the "GUSTO" to turn it over--LOL Gregg (RIP) could tighten the lugs to 55 Ft Lbs with it! Chief always said, "Tighten lugs until they go, SCREECH, & that's PERFECT"! With a FAT crank pin, I always WURRY that it might hang up in the crank nut & go, RRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!! The Dog calls me a "CRANK-NUT"---What shall I do with a Dog like that???? Bill Openforanswers __________________ "THE ASSISTANT GURU OF STUFF"