red liquid fuel gauge?

[highbeams]

Red liquid for fuel gauge re '32, '33, '34, '35. Facts, please; no scuttlebutt!
Thank you.

harmful/safe? Well-known documented supplier? Recent safe alternative?
Thank you.

[Newc]

I understand that it is a strong acid base liquid with a heavy specific gravity rating. Newc

[Brian]

Tetra-bromo-ethane, specific gravity 2.95, dyed red with durant scarlet dye is the original liquid. Very corrosive, and I think carcinogenic. No alternative; that specific gravity is crucial for accuracy of the gauge

[ford38v8]

How about same question for the red temperature gauge fluid?

[Brian]

Dunno...the temp units are sealed; weren't meant to be serviced, unlike the hydrostatic fuel gauges, where service bulletins covered the R&M of them

[deuce_roadster]

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If you look in my MISC folder of pictures, I have a bottle of the actual Ford red liquid. If you lived close enough to me to drive here I could help you, but this substance is unfortunately illegal to ship for obvious reasons.
Good luck, maybe someone down there has some.

[deuce lover]

Here is on the left original 32-35 Ford gas gauge fluid that I still have. Years ago I found a NOS bottle just like "deuce roadster" has. On the right is what the vendors sold in the air line kit (which fades over time).

[mercman from oz]

On the left original 32-35 Ford gas gauge fluid.

[rockfla]

I forget the name BUT There was a company that supplied Duesenburg parts that sold the red gauge liquid and it doesn't fade. It wasn't cheap either.....after shipping it was close to $45 for a small bottle like posted above in Sheldon's post. I will look and see IF i can find the receipt. Classic & Exotic "Maybe"????

[glennpm]

I found a guy on an Auburn site that has fluid that he says doesn't fade. It's $15 per vial and $8 shipping.

Curt Schulze, call him on 715-262-3183, he is in Prescott WI

Curt Schulze
N 4864 1180 St
Prescott, WI 54021

[JimG]

I bought the red fluid from Classic & Exotic. It faded after a couple of years and I don't expose my car to sunlight very often - keep it in a garage.

[highbeams]

hmmm. I think I'll cut a half-inch strip off of a red-in-color sheet of blank paper, roll it up and place it in the glass tube. . . . . . keep track of the trip odometer.

[highbeams]

Thank you,Jim!

Will do that!

Pat

[highbeams]

Originally Posted by glennpm

I found a guy on an Auburn site that has fluid that he says doesn't fade. It's $15 per vial and $8 shipping.

Curt Schulze, call him on 715-262-3183, he is in Prescott WI

Curt Schulze
N 4864 1180 St
Prescott, WI 54021

Oh! Thank you much, Glen. . . . . Got it!

[highbeams]

Thank you all again, so much.

Glennpm, i will contact mr. Schulze. Much appreciated!

[glennpm]

Glad to help. Most previous sources have stopped selling the fluid.


Glenn

[highbeams]

Originally Posted by highbeams

Thank you all again, so much.

Glennpm, i will contact mr. Schulze. Much appreciated!

I am quite concerned about the skull&Crossbones warning; shipping restriction?

What is the reason others have stopped selling it? Corrosive to everything but the glass

fuel gauge. I would get in contact, if possible, with current V8ers that use it.

Thank you, Glenn -

Pat

[Brian]

Here is the msds on tetra-bromo-ethane
https://www.cdhfinechemical.com/imag...9-27-6MSDS.pdf

[highbeams]

Originally Posted by deuce lover

Here is on the left original 32-35 Ford gas gauge fluid that I still have. Years ago I found a NOS bottle just like "deuce roadster" has. On the right is what the vendors sold in the air line kit (which fades over time).

Apparently FoMoCo had a patent on their original. Obviously it was physically safe to use.

[highbeams]

Originally Posted by rockfla

I forget the name BUT There was a company that supplied Duesenburg parts that sold the red gauge liquid and it doesn't fade. It wasn't cheap either.....after shipping it was close to $45 for a small bottle like posted above in Sheldon's post. I will look and see IF i can find the receipt. Classic & Exotic "Maybe"????

Thank you, rockfla.

[glennpm]

I’ve bought from them several years ago but when I checked this year, I couldn’t find it on their site which was easily located when I bought it before.

[Ian NZ]

The original Ford red fluid has come up on Ebay now and again and it is the same fluid that is used in the Temperature gauge. I wonder if the gauge would still work if you fitted a little red ball.

[Brian]

'I wonder if the gauge would still work if you fitted a little red ball'

in order for the liquid in the sightglass to show true level in gastank, it MUST have a sg of 2.95

[glennpm]

Good idea Brian. A small glass bead would work, not sure about plastics.


Glenn

[highbeams]

Originally Posted by glennpm

Good idea Brian. A small glass bead would work, not sure about plastics.


Glenn

Glennpm: Do you know the inside diameter of the '33 glass fuel gauge?

Thank you - highbeams

[highbeams]

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"this substance is unfortunately illegal to ship for obvious reasons."

Deuce Roadster:

Would you please clarify your comment regarding the reasons as you factually acknowledge them.

Thank you in advance.

highbeams

[highbeams]

Originally Posted by Brian

'I wonder if the gauge would still work if you fitted a little red ball'

in order for the liquid in the sightglass to show true level in gastank, it MUST have a sg of 2.95

Thank you very much for your idea regarding a ball to be used in the gas gauge glass tube.

Are you suggesting an exact diameter? Obviously; correct? Would you update your findings, please?

Thank you in advance -highbeams

[Brian]

The ball wasn't my idea, I was simply responding to Ian's post #22

[highbeams]

Originally Posted by Brian

'I wonder if the gauge would still work if you fitted a little red ball'

in order for the liquid in the sightglass to show true level in gastank, it MUST have a sg of 2.95

Brian -

Do you have a '33 glass fuel tube handy out of a car to measure the inside diameter?

Thank you -

highbeams

[highbeams]

Originally Posted by Ian NZ

The original Ford red fluid has come up on Ebay now and again and it is the same fluid that is used in the Temperature gauge. I wonder if the gauge would still work if you fitted a little red ball.

Ian NZ-

Do you know the inside diameter of the glass fuel gauge?

thank you -

highbeams

[glennpm]

"Do you know the inside diameter of the glass fuel gauge?"


I just measured the ID on an old broken gauge I have and then checked it with a drill bit. ID is 9/64"


Glenn

[glennpm]

I would use a bead of 1/8" OD.

This is just an example since I doubt the Coral would withstand the acid.
https://www.michaels.com/bead-galler.../10120972.html

[highbeams]

Originally Posted by glennpm

I would use a bead of 1/8" OD.

This is just an example since I doubt the Coral would withstand the acid.
https://www.michaels.com/bead-galler.../10120972.html

Thank you much, Glenn.

I was under the impression that the ball to be used, as opposed to the 'red';

re your comment "I doubt the coral would withstand the acid."

Thank you, Sir.

highbeams.
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[highbeams]

Originally Posted by glennpm

"Do you know the inside diameter of the glass fuel gauge?"


I just measured the ID on an old broken gauge I have and then checked it with a drill bit. ID is 9/64"


Glenn

Thanks so much, Glenn!

Sincerely appreciated.

So, hopefully, the hydrastatic pressure will coincide w/the fuel level in the tank and push the 9/64" glass ball to the accurate position. THAT WOULD BE SPLENDID! As opposed to diddling with the 'red'. Correct me if I am misunderstanding. I've been known to uh, misunderstand, particularly with a honeydo.


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Pat Malone

[tubman]

What's the specific gravity of glass? I hope it's less than 2.95 or else it will sink to the bottom of the gauge.

[glennpm]

Yes, good question and I checked it the other day.

Glass beads 2.5 SG

https://www.engineeringtoolbox.com/s...als-d_293.html

[Ian NZ]

It would be easy to test the ball just put it into some of that fluid in a phial and see if it sinks.

[highbeams]

Originally Posted by Brian

Here is the msds on tetra-bromo-ethane
https://www.cdhfinechemical.com/imag...9-27-6MSDS.pdf

Brian:

Thanks so much for that.

Pat Malone

[highbeams]

Originally Posted by Ian NZ

It would be easy to test the ball just put it into some of that fluid in a phial and see if it sinks.

The 'red' is too toxic for me.

The glass-ball idea is the best. re: https://www.jansjewels.com/3.5mm-No-...ds_p_3583.html

glass tube i.d. is 9/64" or 3.571 mm.

[highbeams]

Originally Posted by highbeams

The 'red' is too toxic for me.

The glass-ball idea is the best. re: https://www.jansjewels.com/3.5mm-No-...ds_p_3583.html

glass tube i.d. is 9/64" or 3.571 mm.

The 'red' is too toxic for me.

The glass-ball idea is the best. re: https://www.jansjewels.com/3.5mm-No-...ds_p_3583.html

glass tube i.d. is 9/64" or 3.571 mm.

[deuce lover]

Explain how a glass ball will work without a seal (at end of tube)or you put the fluid in and the glass ball floats on top?

[Crankster]

If a wooden stick was good enough for Henry, why, it oughtta be good enough for everybody else!

[glennpm]

Yes, re. "you put the fluid in and the glass ball floats on top .."