Go Back   The Ford Barn > General Discussion > Early V8 (1932-53)

Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements)

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 01-19-2021, 03:37 PM   #1
adileo
Senior Member
 
adileo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: New Jersey
Posts: 1,772
Default MiG help

Hi guys

Little off early Ford but will use on F1.

I am a newby in welding arena. I bought an old/used Lincoln SP-100 (see pic). While practicing on old piece of sheet metal, I ruined the tip. Probably wire feed to slow or too hot...but getting off my need.

I went to Home Depot and bought new Lincoln tips. Only to find when I got home the thread diameter is smaller than my machine. Anyone know where I can find these old style tips?

I went to local welding shop and they said I needed buy all new hose torch setup.
Attached Images
File Type: jpeg 8B97D427-319A-44A0-8D3E-A0D4ADACDC09.jpeg (33.5 KB, 122 views)
__________________
Thanks

Andy
1952 F1
adileo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-19-2021, 03:42 PM   #2
Kube
Senior Member
 
Kube's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Wisconsin, USA
Posts: 8,936
Default Re: MiG help

I'd check ebay, amazon, McMaster-Carr. Do a search with the model number.

There's a ton of stuff available for that model. An entire new gun / hose assembly is cheap. Here's one of many links - this one Amazon.

HITBOX 10 Feet (3m) MIG Welding Gun Torch Stinger 100Amp Replacement for Lincoln Magnum 100L K530-5, MIG Gun and Cable SP-100 100I 100T 125 Plus 130T 135 Plus 135T 140I 170 170T 175Plus 175T
__________________
"I can explain it for you. However, I can't understand it for you".
Kube is online now   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements)
Old 01-19-2021, 03:50 PM   #3
adileo
Senior Member
 
adileo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: New Jersey
Posts: 1,772
Default Re: MiG help

Thanks Mike, I did try eBay and Amazon. But they looked like the same tips I got from Home Depot. I’ll continue the hunt and also look your hit box suggestion.

Stay well!
__________________
Thanks

Andy
1952 F1
adileo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-19-2021, 04:15 PM   #4
Bob C
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: So Cal
Posts: 8,712
Default Re: MiG help

Can you post a picture of what you have?
Bob C is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-19-2021, 04:29 PM   #5
cas3
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: sw minnesota
Posts: 4,541
Default Re: MiG help

usually at a real welding store they have enough tip variety's to make your head spin. gotta have model numbers when shopping
cas3 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-19-2021, 04:37 PM   #6
Kube
Senior Member
 
Kube's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Wisconsin, USA
Posts: 8,936
Default Re: MiG help

Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements)
Quote:
Originally Posted by adileo View Post
Thanks Mike, I did try eBay and Amazon. But they looked like the same tips I got from Home Depot. I’ll continue the hunt and also look your hit box suggestion.

Stay well!
If you buy the entire assembly (about $50) , you get tips. Plus the assembly is now of a more modern design should you need more parts in the future.
__________________
"I can explain it for you. However, I can't understand it for you".
Kube is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 01-19-2021, 04:51 PM   #7
adileo
Senior Member
 
adileo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: New Jersey
Posts: 1,772
Default Re: MiG help

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bob C View Post
Can you post a picture of what you have?
Sorry didn’t think I would run into this issue, it went in trash

I found manual online, pic had model number of tip I need. However, also read a post it’s discontinued and replaced with, kb2011-2b1. However not been able find that either.
Attached Images
File Type: jpg B8268EE5-2A17-4C3C-8226-ECA3FBBD8210.jpg (15.9 KB, 13 views)
__________________
Thanks

Andy
1952 F1
adileo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-19-2021, 04:52 PM   #8
adileo
Senior Member
 
adileo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: New Jersey
Posts: 1,772
Default Re: MiG help

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kube View Post
If you buy the entire assembly (about $50) , you get tips. Plus the assembly is now of a more modern design should you need more parts in the future.
Agree Mike, I’m leaning that way.
__________________
Thanks

Andy
1952 F1
adileo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-19-2021, 05:07 PM   #9
skidmarks
Senior Member
 
skidmarks's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: newark, delaware
Posts: 3,735
Default Re: MiG help

Find your local welding supply. You might be able to change the diffuser to use the current style tips.

If they repair machines, like the place i deal with , they have used parts.
Depending on how old your machine is and if it sat around a long time with wire in it, chances are it needs a liner. A bad liner will cause you more problems then just with tip burn back

Ad that all up you can buy a new gun.
skidmarks is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-19-2021, 05:22 PM   #10
51 MERC-CT
Senior Member
 
51 MERC-CT's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: East Hartford, Ct
Posts: 5,898
Default Re: MiG help

Quote:
Originally Posted by adileo View Post
Hi guys

Little off early Ford but will use on F1.

I am a newby in welding arena. I bought an old/used Lincoln SP-100 (see pic). While practicing on old piece of sheet metal, I ruined the tip. Probably wire feed to slow or too hot...but getting off my need.

I went to Home Depot and bought new Lincoln tips. Only to find when I got home the thread diameter is smaller than my machine. Anyone know where I can find these old style tips?

I went to local welding shop and they said I needed buy all new hose torch setup.
The SP-100 tips have a thread that is 6mm. x1 dia.

Notice that your machine is set up for gas.
Suspect that it was converted to gas from flux and non Lincoln components were used.
This is the standard SP-100 wand.
Attached Images
File Type: jpg 100 wand.jpg (44.2 KB, 318 views)
__________________
DON'T RECALL DOING SOMETHING FOR MYSELF BASED ON SOMEONE ELSE'S LIKES OR DISLIKES

Last edited by 51 MERC-CT; 01-19-2021 at 06:18 PM.
51 MERC-CT is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-19-2021, 05:41 PM   #11
Tim Ayers
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: NJ
Posts: 6,143
Default Re: MiG help

Quote:
Originally Posted by 51 MERC-CT View Post
The SP-100 tips have a thread that is 6mm. x1 dia.

Notice that your machine is set up for gas.
Suspect that it was converted to gas from flux and non Lincoln components were used.
I has thinking the same thing.
Tim Ayers is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-20-2021, 08:00 AM   #12
corvette8n
Senior Member
 
corvette8n's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: 36 miles north of Albany NY
Posts: 2,931
Default Re: MiG help

Are you using flux core wire?, also get yourself some nozzle gel, helps the spatter not to stick.
corvette8n is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-20-2021, 08:29 AM   #13
34PKUP
Senior Member
 
34PKUP's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Posts: 794
Default Re: MiG help

Quote:
Originally Posted by corvette8n View Post
Are you using flux core wire?, also get yourself some nozzle gel, helps the spatter not to stick.
Looks like a gas conversion to me not flux-core.
Attached Images
File Type: jpg 8B97D427-319A-44A0-8D3E-A0D4ADACDC09.jpg (45.6 KB, 60 views)
34PKUP is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-20-2021, 10:22 AM   #14
Fordestes
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2010
Posts: 884
Default Re: MiG help

If you are using a gas conversion you must make sure the polarity is correct, when I switch from GMAW TO FCAW . The polarity for FCAW welding should be set for D.C. negative electrode, A.K.A DECEN and for GMAW ( Mig ) the polarity should be set for direct current electrode positive A.K.A DECEP or reverse polarity, I Use mostly 75/25 gas for general Mig Welding and 90/8/2 in some cases, depending on what I am welding. The wire and gases I Use depends on what material I am welding ,you can expect a good deal of spatter when using flux core. That torch looks like a Tweco I had , I bought some parts from Harbor freight.

Last edited by Fordestes; 01-20-2021 at 10:31 AM. Reason: spelling
Fordestes is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-20-2021, 11:10 AM   #15
51 MERC-CT
Senior Member
 
51 MERC-CT's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: East Hartford, Ct
Posts: 5,898
Default Re: MiG help

Perhaps a non-technical clarification on switching polarity for gas usage.
Attached Images
File Type: jpg ws.jpg (98.7 KB, 207 views)
__________________
DON'T RECALL DOING SOMETHING FOR MYSELF BASED ON SOMEONE ELSE'S LIKES OR DISLIKES
51 MERC-CT is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-20-2021, 11:37 AM   #16
Wooden Shoe
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2020
Location: Prescott Valley AZ
Posts: 4
Default Re: MiG help

I too own an SP100 welder set up with gas, which I’ve owned for 25 years, purchased new. The tips are not threaded into the torch but are off-center. To install they need to be put into the torch and turned one-quarter turn to lock in. My welding supply store indicates these tips are no longer available and I need to buy a new torch with the threaded tips. If anyone knows where to buy the old tips, I’d appreciate knowing where.
Wooden Shoe is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-20-2021, 12:07 PM   #17
AnthonyG
Senior Member
 
AnthonyG's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2013
Location: Pa.
Posts: 2,161
Default Re: MiG help

SkeevE-bay has new replacement SP100 Torch $44.00 for wire w 10’ connection wires
__________________
Nomad
AnthonyG is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-20-2021, 01:51 PM   #18
Bruce_MO
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2010
Posts: 431
Default Re: MiG help

I had the same issue with my old SP-100; new tips are not compatible with my 20+ year old torch. Spent an hour at my CeeKay welding supply source in St. Louis and they were totally stumped. Could not find an older part number, and none of the old-timers at that store and the other store they called could find something for me. The newer torches use a screw-in tip, and mine has a 1/4-turn camlock effect. There's no obvious camlock feature, though; it just looks like a smooth round bore in brass and a smooth tip. But it really works after a 1/4 turn. I have one decent tip left, and when I bugger that one, I will probably buy a complete replacement torch
Bruce_MO is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-20-2021, 02:52 PM   #19
adileo
Senior Member
 
adileo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: New Jersey
Posts: 1,772
Default Re: MiG help

Thank guys. I just bought new torch.
__________________
Thanks

Andy
1952 F1
adileo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-20-2021, 02:55 PM   #20
skidmarks
Senior Member
 
skidmarks's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: newark, delaware
Posts: 3,735
Default Re: MiG help

Bernard guns use a 1/4 turn tip. But i dont know if they make a gun that small.

In the past i also noticed that the lincoln machines sold at home depot were not the same as the commercial models.
skidmarks is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements)


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 02:51 PM.