1940 ford heater install -template?

[skidmarks]

Tried the search function but only came up with heaters for sale.

Is there anyone that sells a template to drill the holes in the correct location on the firewall of a 1940 ford coupe for the hot water heater?

Car is all stock except the 8BA engine that was saved from the hands of a traditional hotrodder. They seem to be messing up cars now as bad as the streetrodders of the 90's

[JSeery]

Not sure there is a set location as there were various heaters installed. Which heater are you using? Would think the best approach would be to temporally install the heater and determine an acceptable location for the water lines. I am going to attempt to route mine so that I do not have to cut up the firewall (after I patch the current heater holes in the firewall!).

[Joe Immler]

I would suggest a test fit. When I installed a heater in my "41 the cowl vent handle hits it. The cowl vent only opens part way. A test fit would have caught this.

[klicker]

I have the same question.... I have a correct Ford heater. There must be a correct location to install it.

[JSeery]

I was not aware that Ford had a specific heater for the 1940 cars, thought the Ford setup was a manifold setup (that is what was on my 38). Does your heater look like the attached photo? Was this a dealer installed option? It would still be fairly easy to back engineer it if you knew were it attached under the dash. Maybe if someone had some photos on one installed?

[Kube]

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Originally Posted by JSeery

I was not aware that Ford had a specific heater for the 1940 cars, thought the Ford setup was a manifold setup (that is what was on my 38). Does your heater look like the attached photo? Was this a dealer installed option? It would still be fairly easy to back engineer it if you knew were it attached under the dash. Maybe if someone had some photos on one installed?

Ford made both a hot air and hot water heater for 1939 and 1940. there were a number of small design changes, some effecting the appearance, between the two years.
There is a template for installing the OEM water heater.

[Kube]

Originally Posted by skidmarks

Tried the search function but only came up with heaters for sale.

Is there anyone that sells a template to drill the holes in the correct location on the firewall of a 1940 ford coupe for the hot water heater?

Car is all stock except the 8BA engine that was saved from the hands of a traditional hotrodder. They seem to be messing up cars now as bad as the streetrodders of the 90's

PM me your address.

[JSeery]

Originally Posted by Kube

Ford made both a hot air and hot water heater for 1939 and 1940. there were a number of small design changes, some effecting the appearance, between the two years.
There is a template for installing the OEM water heater.

Kube, were these Factory installed or a dealer install?

[alanwoodieman]

I put a factory heater in my 41 pu and with my big feet I could hardly get to the gas pedal, so I had to move the heater up-yeah I know extra holes but the install hides them, to gain clearance for the cowl vent handle, I just bent it to a 45% angle and all is well

[skidmarks]

Its the correct 2 door heater for the 40 with the switch. I have had other 39 and 40 with heaters that were either apart or I parted it out but never remembered to make a template. Then we end up with this car and want to install the heater because I did not want to use the gasoline southwind thats in it now.
I have also had 40 fords with the death trap hot air manifold heater.

[JSeery]

Had a Southwind in a 41 Chevy I drove in High School, loved that heater! On the coldest day could get in that car and instant heat.

[fordor41]

Originally Posted by Joe Immler

I would suggest a test fit. When I installed a heater in my "41 the cowl vent handle hits it. The cowl vent only opens part way. A test fit would have caught this.

My '41 has the heater centered on the tranny hump. Vent handle did hit the heater top so I modified the handle slightly to open vent all the way and come up short of the heater.

[Snouts out]

I have a38 standard with a heater that is identical to the one in the photo. It had to be dealer installed,with 41 controls.No room for your foot on the gas pedal,maybe they had little feeties back in them days.The southwind is a great heater,you're going to need a winter front, with the hot water unit.

[4dFord/SC]

Here's the heater in my '40; no problems with gas pedal or cowl vent lever interference. Sharp eyes may notice the spacing of red pin stripes is incorrect, and it has since been changed.

[alanwoodieman]

did not have heater interference with my 40 wagon just with the heater in my 41 truck

[Kube]

Originally Posted by JSeery

Kube, were these Factory installed or a dealer install?

Both.
However, there were only the two types I'd mentioned that were Ford authorized.

[transbytip]

Go to techno source flathead32-53 in middle column is 39-40 wiring go to it at end of article is the template you need good hunting Cliff.

[4dFord/SC]

Originally Posted by transbytip

Go to techno source flathead32-53 in middle column is 39-40 wiring go to it at end of article is the template you need good hunting Cliff.

Specifically, http://www.flatheadv8.org/91A-18457%20Heater.pdf

[JSeery]

Originally Posted by 4dFord/SC

Specifically, http://www.flatheadv8.org/91A-18457%20Heater.pdf

Very cool information!

[40 FourDrDlx]

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Originally Posted by 4dFord/SC

Specifically, http://www.flatheadv8.org/91A-18457%20Heater.pdf

I used info from that site on my heater install. Good info on the wiring & how to test your heater motor. Barner Rustynutz was kind enough to mail me a full size template & I have copies if anyone needs one.