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Old 05-23-2013, 03:40 PM   #1
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Default Which are better: flat steel or wire steel brake rod springs?

I know they can both be used on 30-31 cars, but which type is better?

Are the earlier flat steel brake rod (anti-rattler) springs better or stronger spring power than the later wire-type springs or is the opposite true?

Did Ford switch to the wire steel type in 1931 to save money, or are they better springs than the flat steel type?

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Old 05-23-2013, 03:42 PM   #2
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Default Re: Which are better: flat steel or wire steel brake rod springs?

the spring by far
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Old 05-23-2013, 04:03 PM   #3
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Default Re: Which are better: flat steel or wire steel brake rod springs?

I my opinion, they both work OK. It also depends if you want the correct spring (for the year of the car you have) on your car.
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Old 05-23-2013, 05:55 PM   #4
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Default Re: Which are better: flat steel or wire steel brake rod springs?

I prefer the spring type. The spring type are correct for the 31 models, maybe just late 31. I would try and use the correct spring for the year of the car, not because i'm a purist, I just wouldn't like hearing that my brake springs were wrong.
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Old 05-23-2013, 06:23 PM   #5
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Default Re: Which are better: flat steel or wire steel brake rod springs?

Thank you for the replies.
I have the later, spring-type on my car now, but I noticed that they are a bit too long and therefore they make my rods "bow" down, and I think this may be a contributor to slightly spongy brakes. (I do have new cast iron drums, rebuilt backing plates (Snyder's), and shoes. I have no slop in the rods and clevis pins.) In the oval slot in the anti-rattler springs where the rods go through, I can see the rods riding on the top of the slot and the rods are still bowed down since the spring slots are too long by about a half-inch. I can't imagine it is easy to shorten the springs so that my rods run in a perfectly straight line?
Any suggestions?
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Old 05-23-2013, 06:30 PM   #6
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This is an interesting thread Pat. I'll be interested in your responses also.
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Old 05-23-2013, 07:00 PM   #7
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Default Re: Which are better: flat steel or wire steel brake rod springs?

I had the flat type, and they would not hold their springiness, and just rattled around.
(I bought them from a vendor with an impeccable reputation.)
I replaced them with the wire spring type, and those work great.

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Old 05-23-2013, 07:59 PM   #8
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Default Re: Which are better: flat steel or wire steel brake rod springs?

A 1/2" bow in the rods isn't too bad. I think the flat springs also put a slight bow in my brake rods. Maybe your shoes just need to get seated in for a firmer pedal.
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Old 05-23-2013, 10:49 PM   #9
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Default Re: Which are better: flat steel or wire steel brake rod springs?

I have a small pile of spring types I have taken off cars that require the flat anti rattler ( for correctness) and when I went to use the spring type on my 31, I noticed there were several varying lengths. I suspect the longer ones are repops from Sears or Western Auto from way back in the 50's. You might try comparing lengths of yours to any you might find on a car without "bent" rods to see if that's your problem.
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Old 05-23-2013, 10:49 PM   #10
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Default Re: Which are better: flat steel or wire steel brake rod springs?

The spring type don't wear as well
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