Front Fender Welting Sliding Out On '40

[philipswanson]

My '40 wagon has nice front fender welting so I don't think I need to change it but the upper 8-10 inches on both sides has slipped out of position. Do I need to remove both fenders entirely to position the welting properly? Should I glue the upper ends in somehow?

[Kube]

Originally Posted by philipswanson

My '40 wagon has nice front fender welting so I don't think I need to change it but the upper 8-10 inches on both sides has slipped out of position. Do I need to remove both fenders entirely to position the welting properly? Should I glue the upper ends in somehow?

Where exactly are you referring to? The "upper"...??? Between the cowl and fender? Between the inner fender and the fender proper?

[19Fordy]

A picture would be a big help

[philipswanson]

It's the last few inches of welting at the upper end between the fenders and the cowl on both sides.

I have never been able to post pictures because the only camera I have is a Nikon 35 mm and I think it has too many pixels.

Thanks, Phil

[V8COOPMAN]

Originally Posted by philipswanson

I have never been able to post pictures because the only camera I have is a Nikon 35 mm and I think it has too many pixels.
Thanks, Phil

E-mail your picture to me at the address below and let's see if'n I can make it jump-on the screen here. Put "FordBarn" in the subject. DD


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[FlatheadTed]

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Go to Manage attachments then right click on your picture a box comes up press edit another full page comes up press resize set it lower ,go back and attach that one ,

Originally Posted by philipswanson

It's the last few inches of welting at the upper end between the fenders and the cowl on both sides.

I have never been able to post pictures because the only camera I have is a Nikon 35 mm and I think it has too many pixels.

Thanks, Phil

[19Fordy]

I am sure "Kube" will provide the correct answer but here's mine.

Top end of welting is long enough to be folded underneath and squeezed tight by fit of fender to cowl .

Ignore the dust.

[deuce_roadster]

I do what 19Fordy does.

[Kube]

Originally Posted by philipswanson

It's the last few inches of welting at the upper end between the fenders and the cowl on both sides.

I have never been able to post pictures because the only camera I have is a Nikon 35 mm and I think it has too many pixels.

Thanks, Phil

If your welt continues to work out of those areas, a fitment issue between the fender and cowl is most likely the culprit.
The upper end, visible when the hood is open was in fact folded over originally. The lower end was simply cut off.
The welting was stapled to the fender originally. I may very well be the only guy that still does that.
I'd suggest you start by folding that upper end over and if that doesn't work, utilize some type of permanent adhesive.

[TJ]

Originally Posted by deuce_roadster

I do what 19Fordy does.

Me too.

[philipswanson]

I tried to post pictures but I got stuck on "resize". It didn't give me the "lower" option. And it kept falling out of the Edit file. Gave up after a dozen tries.

The welting is actually falling out top and bottom as depicted in the pictures I e mailed in. Upper end on the right side and lower end on the left side. I am not sure if the welting I have is the good stuff or not.

[philipswanson]

Originally Posted by Kube

If your welt continues to work out of those areas, a fitment issue between the fender and cowl is most likely the culprit.
The upper end, visible when the hood is open was in fact folded over originally. The lower end was simply cut off.
The welting was stapled to the fender originally. I may very well be the only guy that still does that.
I'd suggest you start by folding that upper end over and if that doesn't work, utilize some type of permanent adhesive.

Thanks Mike.

Is there a kind of adhesive you recommend? Maybe the 3M Weatherstrip Adhesive or?

[19Fordy]

Select one of the very high bond double sided tapes shown on this page.
https://www.findtape.com/double-side...FVHB%2529&vw=a

[19Fordy]

"Kube": I am intrigued that you still install the fender welting as originally done using staples.
I think I recall the welting on the DeLuxe grille vent side panels was also stapled in place. Just curious as to how you do it. Are the staples specially made stainless?

[RalphM]

Kube,
Do you have a stapler capable of doing this?
I used to put staples in by hand. if you line it up with the original holes in the steel you can do it without any special tools.
Time consuming. But it works.
Ralph

[Kube]

Originally Posted by 19Fordy

"Kube": I am intrigued that you still install the fender welting as originally done using staples.
I think I recall the welting on the DeLuxe grille vent side panels was also stapled in place. Just curious as to how you do it. Are the staples specially made stainless?

I cheat I suppose. I use stainless wire.
The authentic staples were round - not flat as is commonly found these days.
And yes, you are quite correct about the welt at the grille.

[V8COOPMAN]

Never mind! DD

[40ford]

Originally Posted by Kube

I cheat I suppose. I use stainless wire.
The authentic staples were round - not flat is is commonly found these days.
And yes, you are quite correct about the welt at the grille.

Kube,that is one "point"! Just kidding!I am amazed at your work!

Russ

[slowforty]

I used an Arrow T-25 stapler to fasten the welting on my 40. This stapler uses half round staples for stapling round phone wire.

[philipswanson]

Now it says, "Cannot load the files because a Security Token is missing". Always something in the way. Never have luck posting pictures.

[JSeery]

Originally Posted by philipswanson

Now it says, "Cannot load the files because a Security Key is missing". Always something in the way. Never have luck posting pictures.

Phil, just email them to someone to reduce the size for you or post them. I can do it. [email protected]

[philipswanson]

Originally Posted by JSeery

Phil, just email them to someone to reduce the size for you or post them. I can do it. [email protected]

I already did.

[V8COOPMAN]

Originally Posted by JSeery

Phil, just email them to someone to reduce the size for you or post them. I can do it. [email protected]

I also offered the same yesterday evening back in post #5. DD

[philipswanson]

Originally Posted by V8COOPMAN

I also offered the same yesterday evening back in post #5. DD

Already sent them a coupla days ago. Check your spam folder.

Thanks, Phil Swanson

[V8COOPMAN]

Originally Posted by philipswanson

Already sent them a coupla days ago.
Thanks, Phil Swanson

OK, here are the pictures of the 'wandering welting' that Phil has been trying to post. DD









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[philipswanson]

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Thanks for posting the pictures. What the heck is a Security Token?

[Kube]

It appears there is an issue with the way it's (welt) folded over at the upper end. One should not be able to see the core when the welt is installed.
I believe if it was folded properly, that will cure the top issue.
The bottom appears to be a fitment issue, fender to cowl.
I suppose one could "cheat" and bond the welt in place...

[19Fordy]

Couldn't you just make the welting flange thicker?

First, loosen the fender bolts and see what's going on with the welting and the way it was installed.

[philipswanson]

[QUOTE=19Fordy;1919226]Couldn't you just make the welting flange thicker?

How can you make it thicker, tape?

[philipswanson]

Thanks guys for all the help!

[19Fordy]

[QUOTE=philipswanson;1919234]

Originally Posted by 19Fordy

Couldn't you just make the welting flange thicker?

How can you make it thicker, tape?

Stick a strip of doubles sided foam tape on the welting, stick it in place and gently tighten fender bolts. In fact, the tape doesn't need to be double sided. Use weather stripping tape sold at Home Depot and try a small section first.

[TJ]

I'm using the Drake welting kits on my '40. Comes with pre punched holes which help keep it in place. You do need to finish the ends, but easy to install and good quality welting.

[JSeery]

Originally Posted by philipswanson

I already did.

Phil, seems the computer may dislike you! I found your email just now, it went to my spam file and the attached photos say "not downloadable". I have never had that happen before! Looks like coopman got them for you!