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Old 02-09-2020, 05:41 PM   #1
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how in the world do you get anything behind the bottom gear to get it pulled off? this is a model B engine

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Old 02-09-2020, 05:46 PM   #2
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A big gear puller. And it takes a lot, comes off hard. Serious heat helps.
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A big gear puller.
yes sure good idea. there is no room behind gear to get anything behind it 1/4" from gear to block
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Old 02-09-2020, 06:13 PM   #4
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You need the proper tool
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KR Wilson made a nice tool just for this. Some folks have fabricated their own similar versions of this tool. This link has one on page 7 of the 1936 KRW tool catalog.
http://fordtoolcollector.org/k-r-wilson-1936/
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Old 02-09-2020, 06:28 PM   #6
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well I should have known there was a proper tool for this job


I see a tag on your tool bob, is it for sale?
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Old 02-09-2020, 08:02 PM   #7
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Not for sale. I got it on Epay as it said for Model A but it's to
small but if fits my 2N Ford tractor.


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Old 02-10-2020, 11:28 AM   #8
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yes sure good idea. there is no room behind gear to get anything behind it 1/4" from gear to block




A heavy 3 flat fingered puller works just fine.
Be glad you're not doing this with engine in vehicle.
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Old 02-10-2020, 12:13 PM   #9
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As Patrick says. I have drilled and tapped that gear on my race engine, just in case.
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I have an old Proto gear puller set, similar to the picture, I suspect it would work, but never tried it.
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As Patrick says. I have drilled and tapped that gear on my race engine, just in case.
now that's a great idea

well if you look at the pic the top 3 cogs in the pic are rusty and pitted. I haven't tried polishing them yet to see how it will look after.
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rotorwrench, Thank you for using the fordtoolcollector website
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Beater, that's an original type of gear, steel, not cast iron, that's a good thing.
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Beater, that's an original type of gear, steel, not cast iron, that's a good thing.
if it will polish up ill leave it. if now ill be looking for a replacement.

so that brings me to who makes a cood replacement set of gears? aluminum cam gear maybe
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if it will polish up ill leave it. if now ill be looking for a replacement.

so that brings me to who makes a cood replacement set of gears? aluminum cam gear maybe

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well I turned it upside down and got the wire wheel and polished the heck out of them think they will be ok guess we will see. greased them and stated putting things back together. waitin on a HC head now
my lil make do shop is prity old school



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As usual, Vince has some good info on timing gears on The Ford Garage. http://www.fordgarage.com/pages/camshaftgears.htm
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Old 02-12-2020, 04:50 AM   #18
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That is a good video. How was the old lower rope seal removed and the new one installed with the crank in place? Can they just be pushed into position? I recall them having some "crush" when I reassembled the motor ~10 years ago.
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well I turned it upside down and got the wire wheel and polished the heck out of them think they will be ok guess we will see. greased them and stated putting things back together. waitin on a HC head now
my lil make do shop is prity old school



I would replace that aluminum hub centered Cloyes timing gear as if the fiber gear is not loose now it will be.
Also as posted above by someone do NOT put heat on your crank gear unless you want to do you babbit as well.
Bad advise from some posting so beware.
As was noted the Kr wilson puller for replacing the heat when the crank is in is the best . Also the 6306 installer makes it a piece of cake to install .
Experience, the right tool for the job, and being careful is key.
If the crank is out you can use a common puller with the crank nut used as your center.
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Old 02-13-2020, 07:20 PM   #20
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Also , remove you valve cover and clean out the valve chamber and check rod and mains for integrity and clearance including end thrust.
Otherwise you may be wasting time and money .....
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