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Old 12-08-2019, 06:22 AM   #1
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Hi to All,

I would like to install a side view mirror on the passenger side of my 38 pickup. Does anybody know a way to remove the door hinge pin without damaging the body paint? The pin has been painted over.
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Old 12-08-2019, 08:53 AM   #2
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You are bound to do some damage to the paint but if you are incapable of driving it out from the bottom with a drift and hammer, you might want to aquire a pin remover from Bob Drake,such as this--



https://www.bobdrake.com/FordItem.aspx?Item=TL-100


You can also watch this on Youtube--


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gIWaoA2MaJo
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Old 12-08-2019, 11:09 AM   #3
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Raffyjoy, Don't do it. The amount of damage you will do to your paint and door hinge will
make you regret trying to mount a mirror there. Consider a mirror like this:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/United-Paci...8AAOSw8S9d3S2D

Easy install and easy removal. Please keep us posted.

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Old 12-08-2019, 11:39 AM   #4
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If done carefully there is minimal damage to the top and bottom of the hinge and most of that will be covered by the mirror bracket.
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Old 12-08-2019, 01:06 PM   #5
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On my 39 pkp. I soak mine with Gibbs pentrating oil , then used my air chisel with the pointed attachment after center punching the bottom of the pin you are only doing the top hinge so it is easy to see what you aredoing .
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Old 12-08-2019, 01:21 PM   #6
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Raffyjoy, Don't do it. The amount of damage you will do to your paint and door hinge will
make you regret trying to mount a mirror there. Consider a mirror like this:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/United-Paci...8AAOSw8S9d3S2D

Easy install and easy removal. Please keep us posted.
I've found that I could not angle the clip-on mirror inward far enough on the R/H side. I angle ground the bracket as much as I could to bring it in further; which made it just barely usable.
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Old 12-08-2019, 04:11 PM   #7
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Thanks to all for the tips & advise, really appreciate it...will do the penetrating oil and drift/hammer way first, if that fails then iíll go the Bob Drake route, thanks again....
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Old 12-08-2019, 05:30 PM   #8
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I've found that I could not angle the clip-on mirror inward far enough on the R/H side. I angle ground the bracket as much as I could to bring it in further; which made it just barely usable.
Rich, I had a similar problem with this mirror on my '39 Fordor. I solved it by attaching a 4 inch wide angle to the original glass. It was a stick on and solved my right "blind" side issues.

I, too, was afraid to tackle the upper hinge pin!!
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Old 12-09-2019, 08:15 AM   #9
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19Fordy is correct you cant see anything with a hinge mount mirror on the passenger side
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Old 12-09-2019, 01:38 PM   #10
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Not to be contradictory but I have a passenger side mirror on my '39 pickup and it gives a good field of view.
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Old 12-09-2019, 03:19 PM   #11
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The mirror that 19 Fordy posted I have on my avatar. When at a show my mirror is bumped into a lot as it extends far away from the car and I can’t tell you manny times I have done it in the garage. Bottom line, they get banged around a lot. On my 32 coupe I switched to 3.5” peep mirrors with stick on convex covers. Great visibility and field of vision. They may not suit your car appearance wise so much if it’s stock but I do like them because they are close in. I also had this setup on my old 40 coupe and loved them. This is all just in my experience .......
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Old 12-09-2019, 05:11 PM   #12
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Thanks to all for the tips & advise, really appreciate it...will do the penetrating oil and drift/hammer way first, if that fails then iíll go the Bob Drake route, thanks again....

That's certainly the way to start... And when the penetrating oil does all it can do, and the Drake Hinge Pin Remover bends without budging the pin, then proceed as follows:


Carefully file a small flat on top of the pin in order to determine dead center, and center punch for drilling. With a variable speed hand drill, start with a long drill bit of the smallest size you have. The small size is needed so that the next size larger can be directed more accurately toward the center, and the longer bit is to enable you to eyeball a straight shot downward. Use cutting oil, and remove/reinsert the bit often to clear shavings. It won't be necessary to drill all the way through, about 1/3 through is more than enough, as it is only the knurled area at the top of the pin that will offer resistance due to rust penetration. That said, drilling deeper does generate heat, which is beneficial to breaking the rust, and also helps should you need to slightly adjust the path of the drill. Several drill size graduations will bring you close to the diameter of the pin itself, and you will find that the rusted area will then give way to moving the pin upward and out from below. Take care to properly support the door from falling away after the pin removal, as you will be surprised at how easily the pin fairly jumps out of the hinge.
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Old 12-10-2019, 05:17 PM   #13
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I used the drive-from-the-bottom method after reading what others did. I was expecting to have a big problem, but they came right out with almost no paint damage. I think it might be best to try that first and try the other suggestions if that doesn't work.
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