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Old 10-26-2019, 06:01 PM   #1
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I'm been doing some research lately and came across this 1934 engine. These pictures are from the Ford Museum. It must be some kind of a prototype but, it's not dated 1932.

Besides the exhaust, note the water intake.
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Old 10-26-2019, 07:01 PM   #2
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Might be wrong, but I think that predates series production. in other words pre 1932.
I don't think anyone will have one because they were never sold. If one exists it would be a prototype.
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Old 10-26-2019, 07:30 PM   #3
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It's a prototype '32 engine. Note the four-bolt timing gear cover for the earliest distributor (which was recalled after being used very briefly in initial production) and the clutch release lever which was intended for a vacuum-assisted clutch which never made it into production, although provision for mounting the vacuum canister on the firewall exists on all '32 firewalls. Note also that the intake manifold was designed to accept a downdraft Zenith carburetor which also did not make it into the production versions. The oil pan appears to be the same as those used initially in production with the drain plug below where the oil pump is located and the dipstick is located in the block rather than the pan on the right side of the engine.

While no starter motor is installed in the photos of this prototype, it would appear that this version is one of those with the starter motor mounted on top of the bell housing. Obviously not a practical location from a packaging perspective.
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Old 10-26-2019, 08:37 PM   #4
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I like the platform its sitting on
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Very interesting exhaust manifold configuration!!
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Old 10-26-2019, 10:12 PM   #6
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I like the platform its sitting on


That style engine cart is the type they used at the Ford Engineering dynamometer lab in Dearborn. Makes total sense that the engine is a pre-production '32 prototype that never made it to production.


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Old 10-26-2019, 10:26 PM   #7
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I am, or was, a mechanical design engineer for production "stuff".
Given the number of different vertical and horizontal "faces" that were required to match up to put that exhaust system into mass production. I am not surprised it didn't make it into production. Wiser heads prevailed.
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I'm sure that exhaust system would have been worth at least 5 hp over what the production version was to be. Much more than that in a high performance application!

It looks good, too.
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Neat photo! Whilst I don’t have the engine I have the heads very similar or the same as those in the photo. They are aluminum 1932 Ford heads that have never been run and never made it into production. The story behind them from the previous owner was the only reason I paid the crazy price for them.
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Old 10-27-2019, 06:41 AM   #10
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Don't know about the engine, but the paint on the stand is what i call Ford industrial blue.
I did life cycle testing for Ford for many years & my test equipment was that color.
Neat pic, thanks.
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Somewhere there is a picture of that engine setting in the old mill bldg. at the then Greenfield Village. Story is that it was sold in the big auction along with other experimental engines. It most likely is out there in someone's private collection.
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More prototypes.
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I count 25 head studs. More oddities.
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Old 10-27-2019, 11:45 AM   #14
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I count 25 head studs. More oddities.
Well I didnít even notice that. The 32 aluminum heads I have are of the typical 21 stud variety
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I count 21,not 25 .Those 4 on the second row up I don't believe are studs.
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Boy, lookit the distance from the valves to the cylinders! I'll bet that one didn't breath for shit.
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I'm getting 20 studs.
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Boy, lookit the distance from the valves to the cylinders! I'll bet that one didn't breath for shit.
Look at the small intake slots! Hard to imagine the effort and expense that went into building all of these one off engines for development testing.
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Boy, lookit the distance from the valves to the cylinders! I'll bet that one didn't breath for shit.

Ö.especially when you look at the TINY intake ports! DD
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Hard to imagine the effort and expense that went into building all of these one off engines for development testing.

Chump change for Henry! In fact, he didn't even want to change to a V8. DD
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