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Old 09-27-2014, 07:19 PM   #1
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Default 1941 Ford Pickup frame-off restore for the next generation

Mandatory introduction, my name is Jon and I'm doing a frame off restore for the next generation. My interpretation of that is, it'll survive another 60yrs or so after I'm done with it hopefully for the next generation to revive again.
Been a car buff all my life, specialized in VW's back when. On/off 10yr project completed 2001.


While traveling shows with my wonderful wife, she started liking old trucks. So I've kinda had a eye out for few years now while driving the countryside around here (northern IL, southern WI). On a recent job trip up north I ran across this beautiful truck on a trailer with a for sale sign on her. Haggled a price and had it at my house by the weekend.
July 2013

(I'll be updating as time permits)

This will be picture heavy, I like taking them but finding time to post is another. LOL

Motor had a couple stuck lifters, leaky fuel pump, broken points and carb full of dust. After fixing these few items I was able to get it to fire up. Now at least I believe I have a useable original flathead.

Motor running video 6 weeks in to restore, it was nice to get the original 31,000 mile motor running

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fxtN...obTRusrwozsbuw
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Old 09-27-2014, 07:28 PM   #2
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What's all that "Clear" stuff between the roof and hood, and in the doors?

Seems I;ve never found one with decent glass!

Nice start you have there!
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Old 09-27-2014, 07:33 PM   #3
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Hats off to all that have contributed to this forum, without the wealth of knowledge here I'd be lost or at the library anyway. LOL

Found a used 1940 Pass frame 15minutes from my house, whats the chances. Built a quick rotisserie for the frame and started stripping down the old truck.
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Old 09-27-2014, 07:34 PM   #4
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What's all that "Clear" stuff between the roof and hood, and in the doors?

Seems I;ve never found one with decent glass!

Nice start you have there!
THanks, within the first month I cracked the driver door glass, its pretty fogged up.
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Old 09-27-2014, 07:40 PM   #5
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After completely stripping the truck down, I decided cab repairs first. Picked up a bead roller and some metal and was ready to go. Made a cart to be able to work on the cab. Braced the cab and started cutting out the rot.
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Old 09-27-2014, 07:44 PM   #6
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Front inners and floor were the worst of the whole project so decided to try my luck at metal fab.
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Old 09-27-2014, 07:48 PM   #7
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Had fun using the bead roller for all the pcs needed. Finished product came out nice in my book. Should survive for many years or until the next generation wants to play with it.
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Old 09-27-2014, 10:42 PM   #8
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The real fun began, finally get to tackle a floor pan. Spent many days working thios and figuring out best way to accomplish it. All in all turned out alright.
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Old 09-27-2014, 10:43 PM   #9
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Just a few other areas needed my attention and I was able to get the cab outside for the first time.
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Old 09-28-2014, 07:51 AM   #10
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Time to start on the frame, its a 1940 passenger frame with surface rust only and a little tweak in the right front area. Removed the body mounts and we now have a truck frame. Frame horns also will be changed out.
Time to paint, I moved the whole frame setup outside for prepping. I decided to go with KBS coatings, mainly since I was able to purchase a frame kit at Jefferson Swap last fall (2013).

While on my stand, while rotating one time too many, the frame decided to slip and fall, engine stand leg kicked out. I decided to try and stop it from falling and ended up rupturing my right bicep. This is going to slow things down a bit.

Frame all finished time to move onto the running gear. Front end first.
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Nice work! Hope you heal fast.

Can you say more about the KBS coatings? What is it? Cost?
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Great work going on, get that arm better first, don't risk damaging it further by overdoing it.

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Great project! One of Fords best looking trucks!
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Nice work! Hope you heal fast.

Can you say more about the KBS coatings? What is it? Cost?
Thanks

The way I understand it is KBS is a offshoot of POR 15 at 1/2 cost. $60 for kit , seemed to work fine for me.
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Great work going on, get that arm better first, don't risk damaging it further by overdoing it.

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Thanks, arm is doing well. Amazing what you can still do one armed. Just takes a little while longer is all.
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Great project! One of Fords best looking trucks!

Thanks my wife and I agree.
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Why did you use an alternate frame? Was your's too far gone? I'll also mention that I'm very jealous... hope to find a 40 truck in the near future. Looks great and good luck!
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Why did you use an alternate frame? Was your's too far gone? I'll also mention that I'm very jealous... hope to find a 40 truck in the near future. Looks great and good luck!

thanks
Actually when I bought the truck, as we were pulling it out from his yard, I spotted some old frame rails. Was told 36-37 and mine for the taking if wanted. I thought they'd make great patch pcs.
After full teardown, pics in third post, full damage of frame rails discovered. Cab and bed atually holding frame together. Found a frame local, that was in fabulous shape and price was right.

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Yeah, I saw that frame in the first post. It is bad!
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Yeah, I saw that frame in the first post. It is bad!
Of course when my wife got a chance to see the truck for the first time, she inquired about the frame. My response was the spare rails will work out fine. Later after seeing true damage, I realized replacement frame best bet. All I had to do was convince wife. Lol
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Front end rebuild time. Removed old shackle/bushings, and installed nylon bushings. After multiple attempts with my homemade spring spreader, I went ahead and broke the springs apart and was able to easily get the new bushings in.
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I went through much of what you are. When your cab gets to this stage you will be a happy camper
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Rebuild the brakes on the front end was a bit of a challenge to rivet on the new brake linings one handed. Took me a while to devise a jig to hold the shoe properly to install new rivet. LOL

Picked up a nice bench seat a block from house (garage sale) for $28, and it looks to be useable as far as size wise. We'll see later down the road.

Rearend up on the stand next for disassembly. FACT get the proper tools for drum removal. After trying ever possible diy idea out there, I ended up renting the puller from Mac VanPelt, literally had the drums off in 1/2 hour after spending a week with the other attempts.

Finally got my brace off my right arm and what better project to tackle but rebuilding the back brake system.
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E Brake tube from backing plates was rotted away to nothing on one side by luckily I had the other side to give me a template to go by. Some 1/4" flat washers with a 3/4" OD was my base and than I unibit drilled to 1/2" ID. 1/2" OD tubing from menards cut to length and a little tweak to get the angle correct was all it took.

Brazed the washers onto the tubing and welded the tubes into the backing plates. Rubber boot and cable went together perfectly. Rear brakes rebuilt.

My VW getting put away for winter storage. It'll be nice to have my full garage again to start reassembly of my truck.

Rear end all done. Used my original spreader just had to widen it by 7". This time I completely disassembled all springs and than restacked after main spring installed. Brake lines ran.
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Old 09-28-2014, 06:02 PM   #25
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No doubt, nicely done. That gives me a goal. Right now hoping rolling chassis soon.
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We are currently up to date and where I am at in the restore. If anyone needs more info, pics etc. Let me know.
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Awesome work! Patch panels you made look really good, and fabbing up little things is the best! I have been slowly replacing the skateboard with car building as a midlife crisis and seems like I'm about to get hurt all the time anyway! No matter how careful, there's lots of heavy, jacked up, springloaded chaos available in the shop! Gotta take your time for sure and sometimes just jump out of the way! Funny thing is I just broke my arm skateboarding right after finishing the second lowering scheme on the '36 and had to assemble front end and rebuild brakes in a cast myself. Kinda fun though,and not really that hard, better than layin' around "resting"! - Chris
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Awesome work! Patch panels you made look really good, and fabbing up little things is the best! I have been slowly replacing the skateboard with car building as a midlife crisis and seems like I'm about to get hurt all the time anyway! No matter how careful, there's lots of heavy, jacked up, springloaded chaos available in the shop! Gotta take your time for sure and sometimes just jump out of the way! Funny thing is I just broke my arm skateboarding right after finishing the second lowering scheme on the '36 and had to assemble front end and rebuild brakes in a cast myself. Kinda fun though,and not really that hard, better than layin' around "resting"! - Chris
Thanks for the kind words. Very nice project u got going there.
Sounds like my twin (good luck with the arm) LOL, wife was always asking how did u do that with one arm! If there's a will there's a way. My problem is I never get out of the way but instead throw myself in the way. Had doc visit yesterday and fully healed (8 weeks) strengthening begins today.
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Looking great! Nice fab work.

Not sure if your familiar with Northern Classic. A good resource for wood and bed parts. The way it looks though you might not need it, cause' you'll just make it!!! .
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Looking great! Nice fab work.

Not sure if your familiar with Northern Classic. A good resource for wood and bed parts. The way it looks though you might not need it, cause' you'll just make it!!! .
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Looking forward to your future posts.
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Great link and nice wood. I got lucky and one side of the wood is actually good enough to make my pattern from. Not much of a woodworker but I'll try anything once.

Hopefully get the front and rear under the frame in the next week or so.
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Reassembly time to rolling chassis.

Front U bolts needed shrank a little. Seems the truck frame had a additional support inside the cross member and the new U bolts I got were a tad long, so cut down 1/2" and rethreaded 3/4" more and redrilled cotter pin hole. Left is new, middle is shortened and right is original.

Front end done, shocks and springs bolted in.

Engine cleaning begins, used a friendly cleaner, spray bottle, and lots of elbow grease. New mounts installed and back in the frame.

Trans pulled/checked/cleaned. Its all there, wanted to make sure nothing broke/missing in there is all.
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Really nice project, and documentation on your truck ! An insperation for many - can't wait to see the finished product ! The way you are doing things, that truck will last another 60 years !
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Really nice project, and documentation on your truck ! An insperation for many - can't wait to see the finished product ! The way you are doing things, that truck will last another 60 years !
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I figure with it being garage kept and outa the snow it'll be around for someone else many years from now. And hopefully they'll get as much pleasure as I am in the rebuilding process. After all it is a flathead.
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Looks like a good one, looking forward to progress photos.
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Looks like a good one, looking forward to progress photos.
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Your panel is great looking, very nicely done.
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Wondering if all torque specs are available anywhere?> Such as U bolts, shock bolts etc?

Is it safe to assume if no, than std torque specs for the specific bolt size and grade will do?

IE: Grade 8 9/16-18 thread is max 170 and min 130??
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Getting ready for rolling chassis.

Master cylinder rebuilt, new brake lines installed on front.

Hoist the rear end back up and in. Note to self remove speedo turtle before trying to slide torque tube in. LOL

Rear shocks installed, another set of U bolts that needed shortening again, at least this set noted the possible need for shortening. Brakes bleed (solo) glass jar filled at one location at a time and have great pedal with no leaks.

Original wood pcs laid out to start fabbing new.
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Luckily original wood one side was useable for template. Oak from local lumber yard, cutting, scrolling, and notching. I really do not like wood. LOL

Rolling chassis, a goal set by myself by Halloween.

Mating of the 2, a match made by Ford himself. Amazing how I was able to use a car frame and drill absolutely no new holes needed.

Fun begins, tweaking and shimming. Doors on, a little shimming to adjust, and out into the sunshine. Door gaps are better than before and doors close so much better than before.

Fall cleanup of shop. All jacked up to work on.
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Had a full battery tray mount and a 1/2 one LOL, fabbed up a new battery tray, definitely the max gauge material for my bead roller.

Got the steering box all cleaned up and installed. New gas tank arrived (bob Drake)

1/2 of the spark plug wires done, old and new picture.

Started on the radiator, found a comb on the clearance isle local auto parts.

Was lucky enough to find a pair of anti chatter rods from a Barner (Thank you very much) and was able to get them to separate by welding the original bolt to the frame and heated the rod itself and waalaa. Best news was my original truck frame had (I believe) aftermarket bolts, no center square but socket fits them fine. Soaked with PB Blaster for a good week or so. Stiff wire brush on the threads and chased them with a original nut. Complete set of rods now.
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Hoping for a test spin this weekend, mounting radiator tomorrow and rebuilding carb next. See if it'll make to the end of the driveway and back LOL
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On my cleaning of the fuel pump, found a small (not drilled) hole in the pump body. Goes thru to lever/spring area. Doesn't look factory to me. Anyone care to comment. As always Thanks
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does not look like a drilled hole-maybe a fault in the casting? look for another core
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Not familiar with the truck front cross members of this vintage, but looking at your pictures there seems to be quite a bit more drop to it as compared to that of the passenger frame you're now using, or is it just an illusion? If so, is it apt to affect anything other than lowering the front ride height?
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Once the diaphram is set the fuel never reaches that area anyway. (after looking at it again) Most likely just a casting flaw. Not personally a guru as they say on fuel pumps but have ripped a few apart.

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Not familiar with the truck front cross members of this vintage, but looking at your pictures there seems to be quite a bit more drop to it as compared to that of the passenger frame you're now using, or is it just an illusion? If so, is it apt to affect anything other than lowering the front ride height?
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Yes just a illusion, the truck cross member has a doubler inside is the only difference I was able to notice. Which is available in the For sale section, frame pcs, cross members.
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Once the diaphram is set the fuel never reaches that area anyway. Most likely a pressure regulator for the diaphram. Not personally a guru as they say on fuel pumps but have ripped a few apart.
I was thinking the same but not sure. Appreciate the response.
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That does not appear to be an illusion to me. The 1941 pickups had a deeper drop in the front cross member to accommodate the 6 cylinder engine available for that year. It appears to me to be a 40 style and a 41 style cross members.
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That does not appear to be an illusion to me. The 1941 pickups had a deeper drop in the front cross member to accommodate the 6 cylinder engine available for that year. It appears to me to be a 40 style and a 41 style cross members.
Just measured the truck member has a 6" drop, motor mounts to cross member, best I can tell the car frame (correct 40) has the same, maybe 1/2" less very hard to measure with engine installed.
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Fired it up today. Purrs like a kitten after getting my plug wires correct. LOL

Got the fuel pump rebuilt. thanks for who responded. Disassembly of the carb took 14 baggies! Cleaned it all up, and re-installed.

Vacum line had to be resoldered.

Still shooting for a drive down the driveway, maybe next weekend. Finish gas tank install, couple exhaust pipes, and throw the generator back on.
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41 truck pick up frames had a dropped crossmember for the 6 cylinder, this started about mid year on the production run. all the frames came with them. I have seen several with the V8 engine in them originally. sure does look like one. I have a NOS and will take a picture and measurements and post.
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Thank ya, it really sounded sweet, compared to the first runs a year ago.
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awesome drive her up to kenall tomorrow lol
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Got most everything hooked up on the motor last night. Gauges are still working even with that original harness. Amazing. Sounds awfully good to me. Still have to finish up exhaust, connect e-brake to handle and gas tank to make the big drive down the driveway.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E8rs...obTRusrwozsbuw
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How about a drive around the block

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3J-p...obTRusrwozsbuw

Idle still is a little rough, clutch is adjusted too much, had some slippage. Brakes were fine.
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Hi Jon, Just finished reading the whole thread. Thanks for taking me on the journey. Really nice to see it rolling down the road! I also watched a couple of your helicopter videos, good fun.
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Hi Jon, Just finished reading the whole thread. Thanks for taking me on the journey. Really nice to see it rolling down the road! I also watched a couple of your helicopter videos, good fun.
Thanks its been a great journey so far.

Next is to keep assembling the front end, repairing as needed. Eventually get to the point of the last tear down for final paint and assembly.
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Started the rebuild of my distributor, the front oiler is not going thru to the shaft. Wondering where the hole exits inside behind the bronze bushing?

Is it a straight hole going thru? Size?

I currently have PB Blaster soaking in there, its clean as far as I can tell. I imagine that there is supposed to be a wick in there?

Have tried air but no air going thru to bushing area.

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I might be wrong, but the bushing is probably a porous "oilite" type bushing. oil from the oiler gets to the outside of the bush and soaks through the bush to lube the shaft. If it were drilled through to the shaft there would be too much oil in there probably).

Not 100% sure but that is what my gut instinct is telling me.

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I might be wrong, but the bushing is probably a porous "oilite" type bushing. oil from the oiler gets to the outside of the bush and soaks through the bush to lube the shaft. If it were drilled through to the shaft there would be too much oil in there probably).

Not 100% sure but that is what my gut instinct is telling me.

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That makes sense to me anyway, Thanks

So the wick is still needed? There was not one in there that I saw.
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It's the crab type that has the wick. The crab type has no facility for an oiler on the end.

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I think that is correct but check with Bubba he would know for sure.
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After the usual winter hiatius, I'm back in the garage trying to finish this up.

I've located a radiator shop local that says they'll be able to take care of my weeping radiator, only along the top tank area. So after removing the rad, I decided to tackle the lower radiator shroud and was able to get sides fixed .

Drivers side inner grill shield patched. Went ahead and fixed the twisted hinge arms for the hood. Lined up nicely with a little tweaking here and there.

Not too sure on easiest/correct order to follow for patching and lining it all up.

My thoughts are: Grill first, hood second, inner fender panels, than fenders and running boards last.
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Great work. The pictures make it easy to follow. I'm sure you will be happy with the final outcome. There is a special satisfaction doing it yourself.
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Starting on the drivers fender and inner well area
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I'm following, great work. I'd like to see your salvage of the front fenders from dent removal to rust repair. That is a task in my future as well.
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I'm following, great work. I'd like to see your salvage of the front fenders from dent removal to rust repair. That is a task in my future as well.

Me too!!! I'm trying to get my metalworking up to a nice standard before tackling anything on the "outside" of the truck. The inner fender panels will be a nice challenge and hopefully give me enough practice before the fender.
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Trying to locate a picture of I believe to be a bracket to mount the inner fender well metal to the frame. You can see the holes in the center of the pic.

Whats strange to me is the other side has the same holes etc, but the bracket would need to be on the inside of the fender well compared to on the outside on the drivers side.

Anyone with pics of the 2 sides? With bracket??

1st pic is driverside, 2nd is pass side but by the time I get all lined up the actual fender well curved area sits more on the outside of the frame. This is all by lining everything up to hood.
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Old 05-05-2015, 10:53 AM   #71
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The front end sheetmetal is supported by a Y-frame (for want of a better description) that bolts in the centre of the front crossmember and has two arms that reach up and then bolt through the inner fender panels, where the panel is reinforced.

I think the two brackets shown are for radiator fitment, maybe not for your application (not sure)

The inner fender panels are not secured in the area shown in your pics.

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The front end sheetmetal is supported by a Y-frame (for want of a better description) that bolts in the centre of the front crossmember and has two arms that reach up and then bolt through the inner fender panels, where the panel is reinforced.

I think the two brackets shown are for radiator fitment, maybe not for your application (not sure)

The inner fender panels are not secured in the area shown in your pics.

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Thanks for the reply

I was hoping for that. I have the "Y" frame assy. It just seemed strange with the holes lining up as they did.
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Inner fender panels all done. All holes line up well.
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More inner fender work, both sides done. Last 2 pics driver side only needed a little patch work
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Nice work. I have a pair that are better than those and I was holding off fixing them up. After seeing these pics I now feel like getting on with fixing them up. Just a little bit at a time, until they're done.

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Congrats on a fine job. Great encouragement for others to see that with a few basic skills and a little practice what you can do!

Here is a link to 47 & earlier pickups on the FTE website. There are quite a few builds the guys are sharing on this and the blog for other years too with lots of helpful info.

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Nice work. I have a pair that are better than those and I was holding off fixing them up. After seeing these pics I now feel like getting on with fixing them up. Just a little bit at a time, until they're done.

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Thanks appreciate the kind words.

I had been holding off on the repair of the passenger side one due to the heavy rot. Once I started on it and took a small section at a time, it wasn't too bad. Drivers side was only a couple hours.

The practice was worth it, but still am weary of actual exposed repairs.

I'm now debating on running boards, (most repair work not seen) or go for the gold and start the fenders. LOL
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Congrats on a fine job. Great encouragement for others to see that with a few basic skills and a little practice what you can do!

Here is a link to 47 & earlier pickups on the FTE website. There are quite a few builds the guys are sharing on this and the blog for other years too with lots of helpful info.

http://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/forum42/
Thank ya.

I registered on FTE and now have more reading.
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Driver side shield is just fine. This one is missing a bit. LOL

Anyone have a actual pic of a 1941 piece??

Maybe a couple tape measures along the sides to help me along.

Thanks

Edit: added pic of sheetmetal pcs. 6775 is what I'm looking for actual original piece.
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Old 05-17-2015, 06:18 PM   #80
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Running boards next I guess, got lucky and have some friends with a nice sheet metal shop. Scored some nice metal and was able to throw a few bends to help the running boards along.

Did some mockups to see how far off anything is. Had to trim a little on the front quarters I did last winter. Can't complain, will need a little added is all.

Have just a little patchwork on top the brace up front is all. That'll take some time.
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Passenger side running board done.

Also got my radiator back, he says lost count after 5 or 6 leaks but all is good.

Also last pic shows my instructions for the Radiator shop, guess I can't complain too much, 2 other shops would not touch it.
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Have you got to your left front fender yet? If not, take lots of pick as the damage you have is similar to what I have. I'd like to see how you make the repairs. Do you have a brake and a bead roller?
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Mr Fly boy great job, you obviously can turn your hand to any thing .Ted
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Have you got to your left front fender yet? If not, take lots of pick as the damage you have is similar to what I have. I'd like to see how you make the repairs. Do you have a brake and a bead roller?
Not yet, still practicing on the metalworking. Right side fender is next mostly low around the edges to replace. Its much better shape than the left side.

No brake but a bead roller. I have access to a 8' brake a hours ride away.
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Thanks for the kind words, learning as I go. And having fun the whole time.
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Default You ever had one of those months??

I'm sure you all have been on pins and needles awaiting any updates on the old truck. Well there's been a reason for this.

Since the end of May I have been fighting with alignment issues with all the front sheet-metal. Hours of online searching with no avail. BTW some great articles out here.

After actually trying to com-along the cab back to shift it all and countless hours of tweaking, unbolting, elongating holes etc. I decided to strip all the front metal off and re-bolt the cab back down, square the doors etc.

I went and got the hardware for a proper bolt down of the cab and made up some spacers to seat it all properly. After this was complete and my doors were operating better than new (probably). I decided to start with the hood gapping first. As I had done before.

It wasn't until I went to install the bottom radiator shield and grill that I realized my mistake from months ago. I never installed the springs between the frame rails and lower radiator shield, lowering the whole grill assembly down 3/4". As soon as I dropped it down all the pieces fell perfectly into place.

No elongated holes needed, a drift pin some bolts and it all went happily into place. 6 weeks of aggravation, sweat and some cussing gone.

Now I am finally able to continue patching the passenger fender and than onto the other side.

Very very happy with the alignment of everything now. Thanks for letting me rant.
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Back to fender patching 101,

Started on the back running board area, less visible and could use some more practice.

Next was a couple spots along the inner fender connecting area

Onto the small spot by the grill
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And lastly the dreaded piece (atleast I've been putting it off) the whole bottom lip below and to the side of the headlight. Made up a heavy wire rod for the outline and than started shaping and trimming.Lots of hammering and shaping later we have a finished fender.

Also drove over to Detroit area and picked up some nice whitewalls. 27th anniversary and went to the Ford Museum and picked up some tires along the way (fellow ford barner, thanks). Gotta love a wife like that.

Drivers side next.
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Nice progress. Getting closer!
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Nice job on the fender and the entire truck - what is not to love about 40-41 pickups?!
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Glad I could help with the tires, nice progress on that fender!
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Thanks all. Dog days of summer and all has slowed it down a bit, but still plugging away.
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Finally happy with the pass fender. Got lucky and dumpster dove my neighborhood and found a pile of pvc and fittings. Was able to build a complete fender stand for free. Worked out well for the headlight area holes to be filled.

Will do fine when I get to start painting this winter (maybe)


Started on the Drivers running board. Back bracket was toast. So fabbed up one from a piece of metal that was actually used to patch the floor of the cab.
Gauge was good and its got the patina. LOL
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Thanks for the PVC stand idea, it's a great one. I'm looking at your shop which seems to be a small as mine. If you can do it, I guess I can too.
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Thanks for the PVC stand idea, it's a great one. I'm looking at your shop which seems to be a small as mine. If you can do it, I guess I can too.

I'm sure you'll have no problem, just plug away.


I spend a lot of time rearranging for.... sure. A little planning goes along way.
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very impressive work.....thanks for posting all the work as you've gone along.....very cool....Mike
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Look what I picked up from a fellow barner.

Looks like its been there from Day 1.

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I like your idea of using the bar stock for the fender form. Did you leave it in place or roll the new steel into the form, then remove the bar stock?
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I like your idea of using the bar stock for the fender form. Did you leave it in place or roll the new steel into the form, then remove the bar stock?
Yea Thanks it worked at well.

Rolled it and than removed. Definitely the way to keep the shape.
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Quick little repairs on the headlight buckets.

On to the drivers running board. Lots of fun patching the hump areas, can't wait to apply body filler on those. LOL

Got the VW stored away for the winter and was able to get my framework mounted to the ceiling for my spray booth.
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Something different for a change, applying paint.

Decided I need to move the frame out for the winter to give me lots of room for painting, bodywork etc.

To do that I need a roller chassis again. Sandblasted my rims, primered and painted. Next is to get my tires mounted up and back on the frame, and I'll be able to roll it out in the cold.

Just my luck the spare that came with the truck is a different width rim, so I'll see if I can swap someone out for the correct one.

My spare is 6" wide with a raised center area, totally different than my originals, (last pic) so if anyone is in need of this style rim and has a original in similar shape let me know Thanks
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Back on the picture of the headlight bucket repair I see a metal frame suspended from the ceiling. In another photo I think I see a canvas fabric secured over another metal frame but hanging between your truck and the vw bug. Can you describe what you have there?
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Can't wait to see it with the white walls mounted! I have a spare 40 wheel but it probably won't be available for awhile as it is still on my truck. I need to get my tires mounted to the correct 35 wheels, then I can unload the two 40 wheels I have. If you are interested send me a pm. Truck is turning out nice by the way!
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The hanging suspension is for my spray booth, will be visqueened eventually.

The canvas wall is a heavy duty tarp mounted to remind and protect where the bug stays. LOL

2 separate assemblies. The tarp was too small for my booth (12 x 9) Both are just simple 1/2" emt conduit I had in the rafters.

I also popped out that dent in the drivers fender and could not of been easier, started from the inner area and just pounded it out on my carpeting on the floor. cement underneath and smoothed out nicely.
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Can't wait to see it with the white walls mounted! I have a spare 40 wheel but it probably won't be available for awhile as it is still on my truck. I need to get my tires mounted to the correct 35 wheels, then I can unload the two 40 wheels I have. If you are interested send me a pm. Truck is turning out nice by the way!
Thanks for the kind words, no hurry on my end for the spare yet. Truck bed and rear fenders are all next year's project. Looking forward myself to see them mounted, maybe Monday nite if all goes well.

Your truck is quite the project, moving along nicely.
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Old 11-21-2015, 11:59 PM   #106
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I just found your build. As I'm just getting started on a 40 p/u, it's Nice to see what I'm in for. Cheers.
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I just found your build. As I'm just getting started on a 40 p/u, it's Nice to see what I'm in for. Cheers.
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GREAT project and thank you for posting so many photos, feels like we are all right there along with you..... can't wait to see your progress towards completion!
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Great Job!
Motivating me to finish the restoration of my 1941 Ford Bell Telephone I.R. Truck.
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GREAT project and thank you for posting so many photos, feels like we are all right there along with you..... can't wait to see your progress towards completion!
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Motivating me to finish the restoration of my 1941 Ford Bell Telephone I.R. Truck.
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Sounds like a nice restore. Pics?
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Purists look away, but got my shoes mounted up. The Wife is very happy with her selection.

Happy Thanksgiving All.
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I finally got through all the pictures and posts, and you have tackled a huge project! I thought my 37 truck was rusted and rough, but yours really needed a lot. Great work, keep it up.
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This fender has been a royal pain to say the least

and this has been a project worthy of testing anyone's patience.

2/3rds done now and too many pics taken LOL

At least I can see the light at the end of the tunnel now.
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Yup same fender Lol

Bottom front fender rear, complete lower door skin, and couple rear cab corners.

Piece of cake.
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Those tires look perfect on it!! I think she made the right choice!
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Nice work on those fenders, I read your posts from summer getting the front sheet metal to fit well. It sure paid off as it looks really nice.
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I finally got through all the pictures and posts, and you have tackled a huge project! I thought my 37 truck was rusted and rough, but yours really needed a lot. Great work, keep it up.
Thanks for the encouragement it helps.

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Oh yeah very excited, big step, paint and rubber. WooHoo

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The frustration is paying off I guess, still got hours of tweaking but looks like it'll work.
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Looking good! Slow and steady wins the race, as they say.
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Nice metal work,i think i enjoyed that part of my resto more than anything...looks nice!
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Thank ya, I'm in the same boat, love working a flat piece of metal into something. Its the grinding I can do without LOL.
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The final pieces on the fender are done. Nice to have 4 days to get something done. Nicknamed FrankenFender.

Was able to reuse both original fender braces. Nice to keep some of the pcs.


On to the door next. Anyone familiar with the replacement lower door skins?? Only drivers side door needs work, got lucky.

Worth the $$ or should i just make my own? Are the curved nicely or a flat sheet??

I've got just enough metal left from the original 4 x 8 sheet to do the door and 2 cab corners.
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Very nicely done!
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Great job!
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Nice work on the fenders. Why did you drill all the holes in the fender under the headlight? Testing for full metal thickness? Making smaller round patches?

I'm glad to see that the cab and doors are next. You have a student over here in Atlanta.
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Nice work on the fenders. Why did you drill all the holes in the fender under the headlight? Testing for full metal thickness? Making smaller round patches?

I'm glad to see that the cab and doors are next. You have a student over here in Atlanta.
Thank ya

Yes checking for good metal, I used a unibit and can tell by sound/pressure when I get good metal. After doing the whole bad area I decide on either a bunch of plugs or a big old patch.

The cab is 95% done, just have the 2 lower rear cab corners left.

Door will be the biggest project yet, hoping my metalworking is up to it.
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Sharing a little of my effort. I am learning to planish the old dents out of the front fender. In this picture, the fender has been removed and is laying on its side. I don't have much rust on the front fenders, the cab corners and floors are a different story. If I were to charge for my time with this restoration the bill would be in the hundreds of thousands. But once I subtract the savings for not having to pay for personal counseling, I would probably owe money back.

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Truck is coming along nicely! Great job and thank you for the great pics. I really enjoy the updates. My father has a 1941 Ford 1/2 ton as well. Love that truck! His has a stake bed on it. He restored it back in the 70's.
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Sharing a little of my effort. I am learning to planish the old dents out of the front fender. In this picture, the fender has been removed and is laying on its side. I don't have much rust on the front fenders, the cab corners and floors are a different story. If I were to charge for my time with this restoration the bill would be in the hundreds of thousands. But once I subtract the savings for not having to pay for personal counseling, I would probably owe money back.
Nice to see you getting started on it. Looks nice.
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Truck is coming along nicely! Great job and thank you for the great pics. I really enjoy the updates. My father has a 1941 Ford 1/2 ton as well. Love that truck! His has a stake bed on it. He restored it back in the 70's.
Keep on truckin'
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When I built my '38 pickup 16 years ago they didn"t have lower door skins or cab corners available so I made my own. For the door I used a flat piece of sheet metal that I had the supplier form a 90 deg break along the bottom edge. This gave me a good starting point. I fit it to the door and cut it to length to allow the ends to fold over. FYI: I bonded mine instead of welding it, worked great.

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[QUOTE=38bill;1198550]When I built my '38 pickup 16 years ago they didn"t have lower door skins or cab corners available so I made my own. For the door I used a flat piece of sheet metal that I had the supplier form a 90 deg break along the bottom edge. This gave me a good starting point. I fit it to the door and cut it to length to allow the ends to fold over. FYI: I bonded mine instead of welding it, worked great.
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Thanks Bill, that is perfect. Appreciate it.
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I found this post from Lawson Cox on outside door handle removal (for a 35).......

Take the outside screws out of the handle, then pull the handle out as far as it will go. At that point, hold the outside handle and the inside handle at the same time and work the inside handle up and down so the holes inside the lock align and then pull the outside handle all the way out. You have to play with it a little to get it right. Replace in reverse order.

Will this work on my '41????

I've started on the drivers door repair and actually won't be as bad as I was thinking on the lower hinge repair.

YES IT DOES^^^^^^

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How about a door, nice project, would not want to do it again took a lot of time to repair the old repair on the lower hinge. lol.
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Every bolt back in place, first time since teardown. Hoping another drive before the first of the year, looking forward to the hours of stripping now.
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The fit looks perfect.. Nice job on the door too. Ken
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Thank ya, It was nice not to have to drill out anymore holes and everything lined up.


Radiator going back in today and fill the fluids. With the new rubber should be a great ride compared to the last one with the flat spot tires LOL
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Some great metal work going on for sure.
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Who can believe, 5 days before Christmas and its 50 out.

Had to try out the new shoes Big Grin Had a buddy take a test drive also and he was impressed, makes it all worthwhile.

Drove it a total of 6 times, each one more pleasurable than the first LOL.




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Thank you, appreciate it.
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Good for you!! Happy to see it up and running.
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Christmas present form my wonderful wife. She actually went and checked my tire sizes to get the perfect fitting set.
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Time for final tear down and onto paint. Oh Boy!!!

Luckily my passenger door was original and still completely intact. My disassembly was as the pictures go , One way to do it I guess.

Was able to remove the glass and not destroy anything. But also found some rot along the bottom edge that will need to be addressed.

Also I found remnants of (I presume) original glass down inside door.

Got the complete wiring harness out in 1 piece. Wasn't as bad as I thought actually. Unfortunately my gauge panel will need some interior work, chunks of paint floating around and now missing numbers off odometer. Hard to believe this was still operational.

Will be removing cab tonight, frame going outside, building my spray booth this week hopefully.
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Old 01-08-2016, 03:41 PM   #149
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Got the Booth almost completed, (done) hoping to lay some paint down this weekend. Kinda hard to show the size, basically 12' x 8'.

Picked up my 2K Epoxy, gun, sandpaper and ready to paint.

Did some rust treating with KBS RustBlast, like it much better than Ospho. Seemed to work a lot faster.

Underside of running board was wire brushed, degreased, Rustblast treated, scrubbed during this time with scotchbrite pad for 1 hour. Rustblast wiped off, than rinsed with water. Compressed air dried. 2K epoxy sealer applied with gravity feed gun.

High build primer applied 3 coats

Got my work cut out for me for the next few winter months. LOL
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Did/do you find rust along the interior top of the windshield? Curious about that because I've seen several like that but it seems like an illogical place for rust.
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Did/do you find rust along the interior top of the windshield? Curious about that because I've seen several like that but it seems like an illogical place for rust.
None on mine, but lower is in need of serious treatment. No rust thru at least.
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Trying my luck at bondo.

3 coats high build primer, blocked with 80.

First attempt at filler, too hot and got hard quick, ended up scraping it all off.

Second attempt much more useable, small area but looks more like it should.

Blocked with 80 and than marked all my areas needing filler.

Laid some more filler, blocked it with 80 on a air board sander.

150 fpm air movement across fender, perfect.

2 coats high build primer, drying now for the night.

A few flaws but hey its a 75 year old truck.
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Got the Booth almost completed, (done) hoping to lay some paint down this weekend. Kinda hard to show the size, basically 12' x 8'.

Picked up my 2K Epoxy, gun, sandpaper and ready to paint.

Did some rust treating with KBS RustBlast, like it much better than Ospho. Seemed to work a lot faster.

Underside of running board was wire brushed, degreased, Rustblast treated, scrubbed during this time with scotchbrite pad for 1 hour. Rustblast wiped off, than rinsed with water. Compressed air dried. 2K epoxy sealer applied with gravity feed gun.

High build primer applied 3 coats

Got my work cut out for me for the next few winter months. LOL
Wow, what an amazing illustrated chronology of the build. How are you moving air through the booth? Thanks.
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Wow, what an amazing illustrated chronology of the build. How are you moving air through the booth? Thanks.
Thanks

The exhaust is a fan I had picked up 25yrs ago. I actually have had this design, idea (my booth) since than. When my VW was ready for paint, I decided it was better for a expert to finish it. The fan is located up in the peak of my garage and connected via a cloth flexible duct.

20 years lster , I decided to do this truck all myself.

I have a approx 24 x 30 filtered intake. Which gives me a nice airflow of 150fpm across the spray area.
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Looks like you're not going to leave much work for the "next generation"

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Looks like you're not going to leave much work for the "next generation"

Lonnie
LOL

The whole drive train and engine are staying original, that should give them something to clean up and paint.

My wife wants nice paint and interior and that's what she'll get.

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Other fender done, little filler and 3 coats high build primer.

Jumping around a bit, decided to tackle the underside of the cab.

Normal routine on the underside. Wirebrushed, than AquaKleaned, then RustBlast (ospho), degreased and finally tacked and sprayed with RustSeal

Opened up side of booth to fit the cab in there.

2 coats RustSeal and now have all my undersides done (bed excluded)

Lastly sprayed a test panel of a possible color for the truck. Gray with a blue tint. Still totally undecided on color. Might go with a burgundy or maroon even. Wife is still debating. LOL
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Purist's might want to look away. This is the heater that was in the truck.

CHEVROLET SUPER DELUXE.

Curious was there a Ford Deluxe
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What are the two tabs at the very front of the frame used for? Did the passenger car frame have them also? You're doing very nice work on a very nice truck.
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What are the two tabs at the very front of the frame used for? Did the passenger car frame have them also? You're doing very nice work on a very nice truck.
Thanks

The truck frame horns were different than the passenger car frame. I swapped over to the original truck frame horns. Not sure what the outer holes are for, the other set is for the radiator.
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Your truck is looking good.....
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Thanks for asking. My truck has a three inch chop ,custom van roof bed cover, hidden door hinges ,louvers in the hood , I could go on and on with all the little body mods I've done. I didn't want to take to much away from the original body .It sits on a ranger frame ( I will never do that again it was a money thing at the time ) I'm running a 350/350 combo shhhhh don't tell anyone.Keep up the good work Mrfiboy.
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Thanks for asking. My truck has a three inch chop ,custom van roof bed cover, hidden door hinges ,louvers in the hood , I could go on and on with all the little body mods I've done. I didn't want to take to much away from the original body .It sits on a ranger frame ( I will never do that again it was a money thing at the time ) I'm running a 350/350 combo shhhhh don't tell anyone.Keep up the good work Mrfiboy.

Well done its a beauty.
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While stripping, sanding the cab, I noticed this seal ? appear. Too cool


Can definitely make out the Ford script.
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Some rear cab corner repairs.

Finally metal work done.

Shot some sealer on the inside.

Spent a week now on the cab body, getting ready for primer.

Hoping full primer this weekend.
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I got my booth dialed in for final paint.

Don't expect the whole truck to be like this LOL

Plain old gray works for the wife and I. Took us over a month and 2 other sample colors to decide.

Little wall art to keep me motivated

wet sanding the cab Oh Boy!!!! Hats off to painters and bodymen, never would I have the patience for this.

Jambs firewall, first, did not have the guts to try and spray the whole thing in one shot.

Glad I did the job in 2 parts, 46 oz of paint total, 2 coats.
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I went through much of what you are. When your cab gets to this stage you will be a happy camper
You are absolutely correct!!!! Thanks for the inspiration!!
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Fantastic progress!
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Fantastic progress!
Thanks its moving along nicely. Big hurdle getting the cab in paint.
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More shots fresh out of the booth.

one drip/run, passenger side beltline.
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Appreciate it.
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Hooray for doing a great job. When you get to this phase the fun will be over and it will be work to avoid getting run into. A senior woman driving a Honda ran into me to the tune of $6700. Oh well, it got foxed.
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Hooray for doing a great job. When you get to this phase the fun will be over and it will be work to avoid getting run into. A senior woman driving a Honda ran into me to the tune of $6700. Oh well, it got foxed.
Glad all is OK. Nice truck!
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Got the cab outside, nice to have space again in my garage.

Hopefully get the other pcs all painted up in the next week or 2.
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Next project the hood.

I had already soaked all the bolts, etc. in PB Blaster awhile back so after my friendly tap with a hammer, all came out well except for one.

Started by wire brushing the inside first, followed by a thorough cleaning and a couple coats 2K epoxy sealer.

Top of the hood got my favorite stripper applied (Citristripper) and than most paint scrapped off with a plastic squeegee. Thoroughly washed and a little metal repair, hammered out a couple minor dents and thoroughly cleaned again.

2 coats high build primer followed by a 400 wet sand job. Finally 3 coats PPG DelFleet Essentials Gray single stage polyurethane enamel.

Another weekend down.
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Over on the hamb, they have a thread on photoshopping. "the moose" was kind enough to add wide whites and black accents to my stolen pic of a gray 1940 truck.

The wife was really wanting black running boards, pin stripe, and grill. I was not totally convinced. But as always she was right.

Along with smoked glass side/back glass I believe it'll be just fine.
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Personally, I like the white walls with grey painted running boards and chrome grill.

Looking great, nice work.

*** second look at it, I think either way would be super nice***

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I once had a 40 much like yours, remnants of the original paint suggested grey with a red pinstripe. Pinstripe was just an accent, not as wide as the photo above. Grey grille and black boards
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