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Old 01-31-2019, 10:53 AM   #41
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Werner, I feel sorry for what your father and every other German had to go though. I knew some Russian prisoners of war and what they went through was incredibly bad. If the allies had treated the Germany better after World War 1, perhaps, Hitler would never have been elected in 1933. If Lenin had not died in 1924, Stalin would not have been elevated to 1st secretary of the communist party, USSR. However, They were elevated to positions of power in their respective countries. It was only a matter of time. "Barbarossa" was begun on June 22, 1941. Most people thought this was a terrible act of aggression, few knowing that Stalin was planing then same thing, only later. Hitler knew it and was only being prudent. Yet, it became a "Rich man's war and a poor man's fight". Men like your father and my friends Andrei and Sergei had to endure the horrors of the "Eastern Front" winters and places like the
Pripyet marshes. I knew some Germans who had fought there and they told me that these marshes were full of poisonous snakes and they came out of hibernation in the spring. They were worse than the Russians! So, This is my understanding of the war! Andrei told me he was captured near Voronezh and they made him walk from there, across Poland, to a camp near Hamburg (Later the British zone) He was hospitalized until two British officeres came to him one day and told him he would have to go back to Russia. That night, he broke out and headed for Denmark, where he hid out for a year. Because Russia never signed the Geneva Conference. Russian prisoners were treated horribly. Receiving less food and supplies than British or American. They were given the worst jobs, such as going into Panzer tanks where the crews had been killed and the hatches were jammed with a shell and removing the bodies. I'm sure your father suffered no less in Russia. Imagine how different the world would be if these two monsters , Hitler and Stalin, had not been been elevated to power!
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My father was flown out of Russia with "Aunt Ju". In the plane layed many soldiers with lost frozen feet and shrapnels in the body. They only just screamed. They only got schnapps.



Later, my father had to go back to the front and starved 4 years in Russian captivity with bugs and fleas. He has never been able to enjoy the Ju again.
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Old 01-31-2019, 11:48 AM   #42
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Dear Terry,



you have described the inhuman situation very accurately. Thank you very much for your compassionate words!


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In Canada the AT-6 was called a "Harvard", don't ask me why, I don't have a clue.
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Old 02-01-2019, 10:33 PM   #44
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This is the Byrd expedition plane at the Henry.

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Old 02-02-2019, 08:30 PM   #45
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In Canada the AT-6 was called a "Harvard", don't ask me why, I don't have a clue.
Actually the Harvard was a different airplane, although a trainer with fixed gear.
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Old 02-03-2019, 06:06 AM   #46
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I do not want to dilute the original Ford trimot theme, therefore just only a short note:
The young created German Air Force had received 135 "Harvard" from the Canadians Armed Forces. These were yellow painted trainer aircraft. They had retractable landing gears.
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Old 02-03-2019, 03:52 PM   #47
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The AT-6 (or SNJ in Navy parlance) "Texan" was called the "Harvard" by the British and Commonwealth countries that used them during the war, probably as a nod to the American origin of the type. There was a very similar looking aircraft with fixed gear called the NA-64 Yale. There was no relationship between the design of the AT-6 and the Zero, but T-6s were used as the basis for the movie Zeros in Tora Tora Tora. An armed version was used as a counter insurgency aircraft in French colonial Africa and the Australians had an armed version called the Wirraway. The Australian Boomerang, while a different aircraft, shared many T-6 components.

The German's used a couple captured Yale trainers, but the standard German trainers were the Bucker Jungman, Gotha-145 and Arado-96. More or less equivalent to our PT-17, BT-13, and AT-6.
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Old 03-21-2019, 04:38 PM   #48
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Hello, attached a nice picture with the 'Tri Mot' in the background. (It is the cover picture of an ancient accessories catalog.)
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Old 03-21-2019, 11:37 PM   #49
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Hi Guys,
Wayne is correct with regards to the AT6, Yale, Texan, Harvard and using them to build Zero replicas used in the film.
I have been flying Boeings for South African Airways for a little over 30 years and we have two Harvards, a DC3, DC4 and a JU52 all restored to pristeen condition in our workshops by apprentace aircraft machanics and flown at airshows by some of our pilots who have shown an interest in flying for our Historic fleet in thier off time. Our Tante Ju is also fitted with 3 Harvard Pratt and Whitneys.
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Old 03-22-2019, 01:40 AM   #50
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Ronald Reagan shows you how to identify a Mitsubishi Zero.
https://archive.org/details/Recognit...eseZeroFighter
My father always said you could identify them by the sound. Sort of missing a beat and they would keep coming and coming over the horizon (planes were bit slower in them days).
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Old 03-22-2019, 07:32 PM   #51
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Got a chance to fly in the Tri-motor and it is a blast! Just like riding in an A. Although after about 4-6 hours you would have been beat.


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I saw the Byrd expedition tri-motor at the Henry Ford last summer. I was thinking it was fitted with skis.
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I saw the Byrd expedition tri-motor at the Henry Ford last summer. I was thinking it was fitted with skis.
On second thought I think the one on skis was a Fokker tri-motor named for Josephine Ford.
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Old 09-10-2019, 03:09 PM   #54
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Here is a nice picture of the Tri-Mot as a flying scale model. (Shown in "Modellflieger 10/2019").
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Old 09-10-2019, 09:10 PM   #55
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There was a German company, KAVAN (now Pelikan Daniel), that used to make a series of very nice Ford Trimotor remote control (RC) models:




...and DUMAS makes a rubber band powered Trimotor:


....or if you would like, you can build you own RC Trimotor using these plans

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