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4tford · 05-06-2012, 02:57 PM

A friend has this transmission and would like to know if it is suitable for behind his 276 flatty. If so what can you tell me about it??? Is there a simple adapter??

T86 E -IN tailstock R10F1C

Thanks for any info Bill

Bruce Lancaster · 05-06-2012, 06:48 PM

Well, that is the basic light duty OD trans Ford used for a number of years in the fifties.
or open drive, probably a reasonable choice.

4tford · 05-06-2012, 07:25 PM

Thanks Bruce, any idea of and adapter. I know the "hogs head" does not fit???

satelite · 05-06-2012, 07:55 PM

check with Mac Van Pelt. He has a website which gives all the info you need. Great guy also.
Don in SC

Bruce Lancaster · 05-06-2012, 08:08 PM

You don't say what flathead, early or late, but selling the T86 and getting a bolt-on would probably make sense and be cheaper than adapting. Either early or late can use the '49 merc type OD trans with one or another combination of common parts, and of course the late can easily take the various versions of '49-53 OD transmissions.
The T86 does not have any huge advantages over those...it is still a 3 peed OD with probably very similar ratios and is not a super strong trans either.

4tford · 05-06-2012, 08:08 PM

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I agree on Mac and his site, but nothing on adapting to the flatty.

4tford · 05-06-2012, 08:50 PM

Thanks Bruce, I will take your advice and tell him to shop around. The only advantage here is that he owns the T86

Mac VP · 05-07-2012, 07:07 AM

The T86...if it's from a 50's Ford....should have the same 4 bolt mounting pattern as any 49-59 three speed Ford trans. This means that the 49-51 Ford stamped steel bell housing, or the 52-53 Ford cast iron bell housing, will accept the T86. Double check the opening of the bell and compare that size to the diameter of the front bearing retainer on the T86. I think they're the same. The input shaft will be the same 1" ten spline as any 49-57 Ford 3 speed. This means the clutch must have the 1" ten spline hub. That can be either a 9-1/2" or a 10" diameter clutch disc.

The other potential problems to evaluate are the rear support location on the tail housing, and the relationship of the OD solenoid & governor to any frame structure on the vehicle. Obviously, this will only work on an open driveshaft application.

Dale Fairfax · 05-07-2012, 08:13 AM

If the engine is a '49 & up Ford or '50 & up Merc with original bell housing, the transmission is a bolt on.

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Originally Posted by 4tford

A friend has this transmission and would like to know if it is suitable for behind his 276 flatty. If so what can you tell me about it??? Is there a simple adapter??

T86 E -IN tailstock R10F1C

Thanks for any info Bill

4tford · 05-07-2012, 09:33 AM

I dug through my hoard this morning and found a stamped bell and yes it does fit. I will talk to my buddy and see if this is the way he wants to go.
The engine is an 8ba 276 and he is well past his hot rod days so maybe this trans will work for him. Thanks to all. Bill

Bruce Lancaster · 05-07-2012, 01:32 PM

T-86 was used on a number of vehicles...jeep/Henry J, maybe stude, no idea of patterns and ratios.

05-06-2012, 02:57 PM	#1
4tford Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Regina Canada Posts: 1,335	transmission for behind flathead A friend has this transmission and would like to know if it is suitable for behind his 276 flatty. If so what can you tell me about it??? Is there a simple adapter?? T86 E -IN tailstock R10F1C Thanks for any info Bill

05-06-2012, 06:48 PM	#2
Bruce Lancaster Member Emeritus Join Date: May 2010 Location: Madison, NJ Posts: 5,230	Re: transmission for behind flathead Well, that is the basic light duty OD trans Ford used for a number of years in the fifties. or open drive, probably a reasonable choice.

05-06-2012, 07:25 PM	#3
4tford Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Regina Canada Posts: 1,335	Re: transmission for behind flathead Thanks Bruce, any idea of and adapter. I know the "hogs head" does not fit???

05-06-2012, 07:55 PM	#4
satelite Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Greenville, SC Posts: 145	Re: transmission for behind flathead check with Mac Van Pelt. He has a website which gives all the info you need. Great guy also. Don in SC

05-06-2012, 08:08 PM	#5
Bruce Lancaster Member Emeritus Join Date: May 2010 Location: Madison, NJ Posts: 5,230	Re: transmission for behind flathead You don't say what flathead, early or late, but selling the T86 and getting a bolt-on would probably make sense and be cheaper than adapting. Either early or late can use the '49 merc type OD trans with one or another combination of common parts, and of course the late can easily take the various versions of '49-53 OD transmissions. The T86 does not have any huge advantages over those...it is still a 3 peed OD with probably very similar ratios and is not a super strong trans either.

05-06-2012, 08:50 PM	#7
4tford Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Regina Canada Posts: 1,335	Re: transmission for behind flathead Thanks Bruce, I will take your advice and tell him to shop around. The only advantage here is that he owns the T86

05-07-2012, 07:07 AM	#8
Mac VP Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 1,361	Re: transmission for behind flathead The T86...if it's from a 50's Ford....should have the same 4 bolt mounting pattern as any 49-59 three speed Ford trans. This means that the 49-51 Ford stamped steel bell housing, or the 52-53 Ford cast iron bell housing, will accept the T86. Double check the opening of the bell and compare that size to the diameter of the front bearing retainer on the T86. I think they're the same. The input shaft will be the same 1" ten spline as any 49-57 Ford 3 speed. This means the clutch must have the 1" ten spline hub. That can be either a 9-1/2" or a 10" diameter clutch disc. The other potential problems to evaluate are the rear support location on the tail housing, and the relationship of the OD solenoid & governor to any frame structure on the vehicle. Obviously, this will only work on an open driveshaft application. __________________ VANPELT SALES LLC Cincinnati, Ohio Office: 513-724-9486 www.vanpeltsales.com www.classictransmission.com

05-07-2012, 09:33 AM	#10
4tford Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Regina Canada Posts: 1,335	Re: transmission for behind flathead I dug through my hoard this morning and found a stamped bell and yes it does fit. I will talk to my buddy and see if this is the way he wants to go. The engine is an 8ba 276 and he is well past his hot rod days so maybe this trans will work for him. Thanks to all. Bill

05-07-2012, 01:32 PM	#11
Bruce Lancaster Member Emeritus Join Date: May 2010 Location: Madison, NJ Posts: 5,230	Re: transmission for behind flathead T-86 was used on a number of vehicles...jeep/Henry J, maybe stude, no idea of patterns and ratios.