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Old 08-26-2018, 09:12 AM   #1
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Default 10” clutch issues are driving me nuts!!!! Help!

Hey guys I’m having a hell of a time with my clutch in my 31 coupe. I have a 1941 Ford flathead mated to a 39 toploader. It has a 10” flywheel with all new clutch parts. I’ve had the trans out 4 times now because I can fix this issue. The issue being is the throwout bearing is traveling at least a 3/4” til it hits the fingers and then it’s like hitting a brick wall. The fingers look like they are recessed way to much to the point that they are actually pointing towards the front of the engine instead of sticking back towards the trans. The clutch is a short finger type. Do I need a long finger???I’ve tried two different one of these clutches, both new with the same issue. Please lead me to the right combo!!!!! I have a small video of the bearing moving but it won’t let me post it
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Old 08-26-2018, 09:15 AM   #2
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Do you have a picture of the pressure plate out of the car?
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Old 08-26-2018, 09:20 AM   #3
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Default Re: 10” clutch issues are driving me nuts!!!! Help!

I do not but I will when I pull the trans again. It’s just a stock flat 10” flywheel
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Old 08-26-2018, 09:27 AM   #4
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Default Re: 10” clutch issues are driving me nuts!!!! Help!

Just a guess, but you could have the wrong flywheel. Also, where did you get your clutch & pressure plate? Pictures of the pp after you pull trans, and pictures of c&pp removed from flywheel. Picture of fork and clutch arm on transmission would also help.
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Old 08-26-2018, 09:33 AM   #5
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Is the flywheel perfectly flat or was it turned so the part where the disk engages a bit higher (thicker)?
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Old 08-26-2018, 09:34 AM   #6
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Old 08-26-2018, 09:37 AM   #7
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31,
The clutch does release though...right ? If so you might look into the T/O
bearing carrier. There are a couple different carriers that position the T/O brg
closer to the fingers. The usual prefix 48 part # is most common. Maybe Mac VanPelt
will join in here with pt #'s.
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Old 08-26-2018, 11:04 AM   #8
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Default Re: 10” clutch issues are driving me nuts!!!! Help!

Actually the clutch never moves. Once the throwout bearing moves its 3/4” it stops dead. It’s like the throwout bearing hits a brick wall. Fingers don’t move one bit

QUOTE=Charlie ny;1667571]31,
The clutch does release though...right ? If so you might look into the T/O
bearing carrier. There are a couple different carriers that position the T/O brg
closer to the fingers. The usual prefix 48 part # is most common. Maybe Mac VanPelt
will join in here with pt #'s.
Charlie ny[/QUOTE]
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Old 08-26-2018, 12:06 PM   #9
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Default Re: 10” clutch issues are driving me nuts!!!! Help!

It appears that possibly that pressure plate does not have the original, adjustable fingers. Chinese manufacturer?
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Old 08-26-2018, 12:33 PM   #10
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Another potential problem is that the clutch disc is the wrong thickness for this particular clutch. If the clutch fingers are over-depressed, that tells me that something is not correctly setup between (or compatible) between the plate and the disc. You might want to contact Ft. Wayne Clutch and Driveline -- they should be able to get you sorted out.

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Old 08-26-2018, 12:52 PM   #11
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It appears that possibly that pressure plate does not have the original, adjustable fingers. Chinese manufacturer?
Does it supposed to have the shirt or long finger clutch? I’ve gotten everything from Van Pelt
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Old 08-26-2018, 12:57 PM   #12
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Default Re: 10” clutch issues are driving me nuts!!!! Help!

The newer style pressure plates are showing up with that problem.
The new ones have fingers like sliced bread all the same.
You want a 10" like Ford Made. USA.
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Old 08-26-2018, 01:13 PM   #13
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Mine doesn’t have those adjuster on the ends.
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Have you talked to Mac (VanPelt)? He should be able to assist you if he sold you the parts.
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Old 08-26-2018, 01:41 PM   #15
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Have you talked to Mac (VanPelt)? He should be able to assist you if he sold you the parts.
Yes and he wasn’t sure what the problem was either
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Old 08-26-2018, 02:21 PM   #16
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Default Re: 10” clutch issues are driving me nuts!!!! Help!

The problem you have can't be fixed.
When you remove the trans measure from flat of bell housing to tip of finger.
With the right old style you will find out the finger with adj screws are 1/4' 3/8' closer the throw out bearing. They are all selling them and will be 1000s out there. sorry junk
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31,
What J Seery said, re-articulate this unfortunate scenario, Mac VanPelt will
reach thru the phone and twist the wrenches !
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Old 08-26-2018, 04:42 PM   #18
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Default Re: 10” clutch issues are driving me nuts!!!! Help!

Another option is to talk to Ft. Wayne Clutch. They should be able to determine what you need to fix the problem.
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Old 08-26-2018, 05:03 PM   #19
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My vote is incorrect clutch cover. Get one like picture in post #12, make sure disk is in correctly.
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Another Vote For Ft. Wayne Clutch. I send all my customers to them. Ask for Leo.
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