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Old 12-17-2013, 08:38 PM   #1
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Cool Pictures of GAZ AAs in WWII.

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http://www.tresburrosgarage.com/AA-GAZ-in-WWII.html
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Old 12-17-2013, 10:34 PM   #2
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Great pictures ! Thanks for the link.
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Old 12-18-2013, 02:45 AM   #3
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These photos show scenes that were typical throughout all of Europe during and after WWII. Seeing these photos will help us better understand why there really aren't very many Model A's left that were originally assembled / built in Europe. Like so much of what was destroyed between 1939 & 1945, these Ford Model A's were 'recycled' into new products that were very much needed for a recovering Europe.
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Old 12-18-2013, 03:57 AM   #4
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Great Pictures !!! Thanks for Posting
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Old 12-18-2013, 09:42 AM   #5
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Thank you for sharing this link so much history in these photos
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Old 12-18-2013, 12:47 PM   #6
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In the first picture where they are prepping a plane for starting; I first thought the power used to rotate the propeller was provided by the AA truck. But then I noticed on the upright pipe behind the cab was a hand crank.

Am I to believe in the frozen Russian landscape that they could effectively turn that prop?

Interesting.
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Old 12-18-2013, 02:21 PM   #7
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In the first picture where they are prepping a plane for starting; I first thought the power used to rotate the propeller was provided by the AA truck. But then I noticed on the upright pipe behind the cab was a hand crank.

Am I to believe in the frozen Russian landscape that they could effectively turn that prop?

Interesting.

OH ! OH !
I hope this doesn;t start a debate about what kind of lube oils the Russians used at Stalingrad.
I understand the Germans had a tough time starting tanks and trucks during that cold Russian winter.
How are radial engines lubed? Is there a crankcase?

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Old 12-18-2013, 05:32 PM   #8
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I read somewhere that they fired up a pan of gas under their plane engines and let it burn. A guy I used to know (Dead now) was in the "Spetnaz" corp and he told me that his issued 1936 Simonov assault rifles would jam with the cold but that the soviets had developed a lubricant that would work, but the Germans had nothing and their guns jammed.
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OH ! OH !
I hope this doesn;t start a debate about what kind of lube oils the Russians used at Stalingrad.
I understand the Germans had a tough time starting tanks and trucks during that cold Russian winter.
How are radial engines lubed? Is there a crankcase?
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Old 12-18-2013, 05:50 PM   #9
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I was in aviation classes and worked on Wright Whirlwinds (donated by the navy) but for the life of me, I can't recall howinhell the things stored oil. I know that Hydrolock will occur on the bottom cylinders. In other words, oil leaked past the rings. The "Ranger" (Inverted inline 6 Cyl) had another complex Lubrication system anlong with the British "Gypsey Moth with an inverted 3 cyl and the German "Storch" (Stork) and the ubiquitous ME 109 had inverted 8 cyl and 12 cyl engines, respectively. Sorry, I can't shed much light on the "Hows" it was done.
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I hope this doesn;t start a debate about what kind of lube oils the Russians used at Stalingrad.
I understand the Germans had a tough time starting tanks and trucks during that cold Russian winter.
How are radial engines lubed? Is there a crankcase?
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Old 12-18-2013, 07:41 PM   #10
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I am curious about the hand crank in that photo. Trucks specialized to start planes were common on airfields of the time and not just for cold weather ops. I'm sure it did make it easier to start the planes in the cold. Power to turn the prop is from the PTO. When it's that cold you're probably not going to get much from an electric battery. Attached is a picture of the US version, in this case a fully restored 32 Ford that is on display at the USAF Museum in Dayton, OH.
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Old 12-26-2013, 12:34 PM   #11
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Default Model kits of the GAZ AS-1 and 2

Unimodels makes a kit of the GAZ AS-2: a GAZ AAA used to start airplane engines:




Military Wheels makes a kit of the AS-1: a GAZ AA used to start airplane engines:



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Radial Aircraft Engines, like the Wright Cyclone R-1820, which powered the Boeing B-17, among other aircraft, had an oil tank in the accessory section behind the engine.
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Old 12-26-2013, 01:36 PM   #13
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If you look on top of the engine you can see the cover they use to keep the engine warm while the heater burns under it. I "think" what is happening in the first pic. is this:
-Hand crank the starter on the engine
-Then attach the external crank starter to the prop on a cold engine to assist the internal starter.

Either that or the hand crank is the starter which would be normal. I have seen many pics. and movies of the German AF hand cranking ME-109's at the beginning of the war.

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