Search for "oil" brings no hits?!

[BillEbob]

I did a search for oil to learn what you all have decided is the best oil to use in the A -- nothing! Now that I find hard to believe!

I use Valvoline Racing Oil (has zinc) in my Mustangs. Should one use a multi-weight oil, is zinc necessary for Model A valves, or should I use a straight weight oil, possibly without detergents since the A's have no oil filter??

ALSO, it drips oil from the drain plug. Where to replace the brass/copper drain plug washer?

And this is just day 1 in the ownership of n A by newbie! Lol

Bill

[WHN]

We use 20-50 HD oil in our cars. Cars not driven in winter, but it does get hot here in south eastern Connecticut in the summer.

We also add a 16 oz. bottle of STP at oil change. Four quarts of oil and one bottle of STP. Marvel Mystery Oil also used in gas.

We all have are own thing. This has worked for use for many, many, years.

Never overheating, good oil pressure, no valve noise, no smoke, very little oil dripping. It’s just our way. Others have their ideas of what works for them. Enjoy.

[tinkirk]

Originally Posted by BillEbob

I did a search for oil to learn what you all have decided is the best oil to use in the A -- nothing! Now that I find hard to believe!



I use Valvoline Racing Oil (has zinc) in my Mustangs. Should one use a multi-weight oil, is zinc necessary for Model A valves, or should I use a straight weight oil, possibly without detergents since the A's have no oil filter??



ALSO, it drips oil from the drain plug. Where to replace the brass/copper drain plug washer?



And this is just day 1 in the ownership of n A by newbie! Lol



Bill

Bill
You are going to get a lot of different opinions on oil so I will be the first
I use synthetic in every thing i run and will not use conventional oil
I would say use what you would run in any other one of your other cars
If you are using racing oil 15w50 not sure about that but maybe 10w30 or 10w40 sync is not that important in an A

Drain plug gaskets and anything else you may need can be had my numerous vendors i use Snyder's
Just do a search for model a parts vendors and use your judgement there are some that might have better parts or pricing than others
Hope this helps
Terry



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[1930-Pickup]

This will help with some insight into the question.

"CHOOSING THE RIGHT OIL FOR YOUR MODEL A ENGINE"
By: Andy Wiedeman and Wayne Russert
Members of the Rocky Mountain Model A Club
March 2012 Rev. C

http://rmaford.org/wp-content/blogs....C_Mar_2012.pdf

[Karl]

Doesn't matter what you use really its all better than what they had in the day. Most of use something around 30wt perhaps 10-30W or 20-50W- Every five hundred to a thousand miles I pull the drain plug on mine, dump the old oil and replace it with new oil - For this reason I don't use synthetics as its easier on the pocket not to. The 500 miles oil change was what was in the owners book in the day. With modern oils its probably overkill but the insides of my engine are as clean as a whistle and I use my car lots putting on at least 10,000 trouble free miles per year for the last 5 years.

[cpf240]

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Originally Posted by BillEbob

I did a search for oil to learn what you all have decided is the best oil to use in the A -- nothing! Now that I find hard to believe!...

Bill

Often times search engines want more than 3 letters to search for. Too many hits, probably mostly not what the person was looking for, otherwise.

[BillEbob]

HD, huh? I was SURE that you, in the know, were going to recommend NOT to use a high detergent oil. Guessed it would get 'foamy' and reduce oiling.

Okay, so live and learn!

Yes, I too use Marvel in the gas tanks of the Mustangs as well as STP in the crankcase!

[J Franklin]

The search engine was protecting you!

[mike657894]

low rpm so the oil doesnt have to work too hard so type isnt that important. no filter so it gets dirty quicker. so do more changes. Ive been using 15 40 diesel type.

[Charlie Stephens]

Originally Posted by cpf240

Often times search engines want more than 3 letters to search for. Too many hits, probably mostly not what the person was looking for, otherwise.

What you say is apparently true. You can't find VIN, DMV or YOM>

Charlie Stephens

[updraught]

Google "www.fordbarn.com engine oil"

hours of fun

[40 Deluxe]

No need to listen to the rumormongers on the 'zinc' thing. Any oil today still has plenty of the zinc additive for a Model A, more than oil of the '30's.

[Big hammer]

Racing oil for mustangs? Isn't that cruelty to animals :-)
Wecome to the model "A" hobby! Any oil, change often, enjoy your "A"!

[Dan Partain]

If you want to search for DMV, YOM, VIN, just put an asterisk (some call it a star) on both ends of the term - *DMV* or *YOM*. You will find maybe more than you wanted, especially with VIN since you will get VINtage, VINyl, etc.
Happy Searching!
-DAN

[Mike V. Florida]

Originally Posted by Charlie Stephens

What you say is apparently true. You can't find VIN, DMV or YOM>

Charlie Stephens

Originally Posted by BillEbob

I did a search for oil to learn what you all have decided is the best oil to use in the A -- nothing! Now that I find hard to believe!

Anything less than 4 letters and the search will return nothing.

[Jacksonlll]

Use anything you want, but change it every 500 mi, unless on a long trip. Just keep clean oil in there and the engine will be happy.

[Terry, NJ]

About once a month this subject comes up. The answer is every thing! I know of no stories of someone ruining a Mod. A engine because of using the "wrong" oil! Since a Mod A's oil does not stay in the engine very long. It was originally changed a 500 mile, but with today's better better oils, most change at 1000 miles. Most use a multi weight oil, 15-40 Shell, Rotella is preferred. Some prefer to stick to single weight like sae 30. Today the old argument about "Detergent" oil Vs "Non detergent" oils has evolved into Synthetic Vs non synthetic! But for now, I use the Shell Rotella available at Tractor Supply in 2 1/2 gal containers. But what ever oil you use, add some STP to it. For cars parked for a while it protects the cam, cyl. walls and other parts from from moisture. If this forms a thin coat of Iron oxide, It will be scraped off and contaminate the engine. These surfaces must be protected! The STP will protect longer than just the oil alone.
Terry

[1930-Pickup]

So many opinions, but the only facts are shown in the link on post #4 above. Requires reading though.

[Jeff/Illinois]

ZDDP additive in our '69 Mach 1 with 10.5:1 compression

Nothing added to the Model A or '36 Flathead and all is fine.

Been running Motorcraft 5W-30 in the Flathead, changed it the other day during winterizing the vehicle. Oil came out looking very good after about a thousand miles, no evidence of sludge in the pan, and this motor was kinda dirty when I got it she is running clean now after several oil changes with detergent oil

[denniskliesen]

Originally Posted by Terry, NJ

About once a month this subject comes up. The answer is every thing! I know of no stories of someone ruining a Mod. A engine because of using the "wrong" oil! Since a Mod A's oil does not stay in the engine very long. It was originally changed a 500 mile, but with today's better better oils, most change at 1000 miles. Most use a multi weight oil, 15-40 Shell, Rotella is preferred. Some prefer to stick to single weight like sae 30. Today the old argument about "Detergent" oil Vs "Non detergent" oils has evolved into Synthetic Vs non synthetic! But for now, I use the Shell Rotella available at Tractor Supply in 2 1/2 gal containers. But what ever oil you use, add some STP to it. For cars parked for a while it protects the cam, cyl. walls and other parts from from moisture. If this forms a thin coat of Iron oxide, It will be scraped off and contaminate the engine. These surfaces must be protected! The STP will protect longer than just the oil alone.
Terry

X2 I buy my 15W40 Shell Rotella 2-1/2 gallon jug from Walmart because they are a few miles away, Tractor Supply is 40 miles away. Same with the STP or Lucas oil stabilizer both have zinc. I go 1000 miles on a routine oil change.