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Old 09-16-2021, 05:03 PM   #1
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Default 1934 Wagon colors

Saw a very nice ‘34 wagon today finished in coach maroon, but with black fenders; I was not aware of two tone paint option in that year and would appreciate the group’s feedback. Thank you.
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See Description at > https://classiccars.com/listings/vie...-arizona-85740

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Old 09-16-2021, 05:28 PM   #3
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Here's a '33. Read the description here > https://www.legendarymotorsllc.com/v...0-woodie-wagon
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I was under the impression that the only colors available for the '34 Station Wagon were Cordoba Gray or Mountain Brown, with Black fenders.
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Thank you, but both seem to be dealer sales (and possibly painted to enhance marketability). Do we know if the black fenders are truly legit ?
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Yes, the fenders were Black.
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But body would not have been coach maroon…
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Shouldn’t 1934 Fenders be body color?? 33 would be black fenders!!
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1934 Woody
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1934 Woody, body color fenders
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Consensus then that coach maroon with black fenders is not correct ?
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Consensus then that coach maroon with black fenders is not correct ?
You are correct!! NOT for 1934
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Black fenders were an option for 34 for $5.00. Pete/Ct.
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The information shown here is right out of a 1934 Ford Truck Dealer Book and the station wagon is shown in this bookAD9A2CE7-82B8-491B-AD2B-7C249146C9FC.jpg

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Robert's copy of the Ford archives photo of a '34 station wagon with body color fenders puts a huge hole in the black fender argument as it is tough to find better documentation than that photo.

But the frosting on the cake is mercurycyclone's contribution regarding the paint color flexibility Ford offered its fleet customers. Best of all, the version that he has was printed after February, 1934 when Ford made a number of deletions and additions to its commercial vehicle color choices. One of those additions was Coach Maroon. (A minor quibble is that the color on the subject vehicle is lighter than the original Coach Maroon color.)

So, within a few short responses, the idea that all '34 Ford station wagons had to have been painted Mountain Brown with black fenders is laid to rest based on the solid Ford documentation.
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The information shown here is right out of a 1934 Ford Truck Dealer Book and the station wagon is shown in this bookAttachment 473133

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Gentlemen, This has been extremely helpful; my sincere thanks to all ! If anyone can post a high quality photo (in sunlight) of a “known good” example of coach maroon, that may be helpful. Not sure if a Pantone or other match can be had in the next several days.
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Here is all the color chips shown in the book, 6 standard colors and an additional. 22 colors.
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The maroon on the coupe in the photo below is a good match to the original color based on cars that I have seen that have not been repainted. Unfortunately it is evidently overcast in that photo as there are no distinct shadows
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Maroon 1934 Ford Five Window Coupe, as Posted by DavidG
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1934 Ford Station Wagon.
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Old 09-17-2021, 05:19 PM   #22
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@mercurycyclone That book looks like true unobtanium - wow ! To my eye, the maroon in the book appears both considerably darker and less blue than the photos posted by @ petehoovie
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The guy with the 34 wagon needs to give his 33 crank hole cover/shield to the guy with the 33. Then they would both be correct as far as that bit of trivia is concerned. 34 didn't have a crank hole cover but 33 did.
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Either way, the crank hole covers were aftermarket items, not Ford-released accessories.
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This thread was a perfect example of how great this community is - just an extraordinary depth of knowledge. Again, my sincere thanks to all who contributed.
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So…….question for DavidG…….trying to understand the meaning of this heading in the 33-34 club restoration guide???
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I might be wrong but I think in 34 and up to maybe 39, the wagons were considered commercial vehicles and color combos were maybe different then the passenger cars. Somewhere I think I read where my 40 wagon was the first year not listed as a commercial. David or Kube probably have the answer, interesting that black fenders do show up on earlier wagons newer then 33.
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Robert,

The standard paint scheme for both '33 and '34 U.S. station wagons, which Ford did indeed classify as commercial vehicles, was Mountain Brown for the cowl and hood and black fenders. I'd have to do more research regarding those station wagons (and other commercial vehicles) sold in Canada as there body color fenders, etc. were an extra cost option on '33s, unlike in the U.S.

As indicated above, station wagons sold to fleet accounts could basically end up being darn near any color, including their fenders and even their chassis, depending on the size of the fleet and what the fleet was willing to pay Ford for non-standard colors and the extent of their application.
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Thank you for your impeccable knowledge David!!
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One unrelated question which the various photographs have raised - horn(s).

Single or double ? Black or bright ?

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I think in general, standard models had a single black horn and deluxe cars had 2 with bright parts or entirely bright. At least that is the case for my 33 standard phaeton.
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Given that it was a commercial vehicle and a standard one at that (no dash ash tray or cigar lighter), one all black horn as shown in the Ford archives photo above. Of all the photos in this thread, that's the only one that matters for as-built reference purposes.

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There is one on Hemmings website right now in the auction side, in the same color, on the East Coast, and in the description has the ridiculous claim that there’s only 19 of these left in the world
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One can only wonder where they come up with drivel like that. I guess it's a common practice to enhance the uniqueness of what's on the block. Auctioneers are especially prone to making undocumented assertions
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Again, thank you all for the horn information.
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